Why are Americans paying so much more for healthcare than they used to?
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It's a pretty obvious answer, to be honest. Because it's a poorly regulated industry for the purposes of minimizing cost to individuals. Over time, industry participants will continue to expand rent seeking practices and because the demand for health is almost perfectly inelastic, they can continue to get away with it. Too many middlemen, too much needless complexity, not enough regulatory oversight.
I'm a rabid defender of the free market, but healthcare is not a regular market because nobody chooses to purchase healthcare services. You take them at whatever price they are offered whenever you need them. It's why we call users of these services "patients", not "consumers".
Consumers are best served by private companies competing against each other in a nearly perfectly free market to offer the best goods and services at the lowest prices. Patients are not.
Patients are best served by a well regulated industry in a nearly perfect not-free market in which their needs are prioritized over profit. Healthcare, just like education and security, are the foremost duties of the State.
People try and carve out an exception for healthcare because of inelastic demand. While I agree individual insurance and tying insurance to employment are terrible models and for-profit healthcare is a terrible idea, I just don't think healthcare is as exceptional free market defenders make it out to be.
I didn't claim free markets exist out of thin air. They need to be created and enforced, there's no dispute there.
I'm also not saying that healthcare should be a free market. I'm arguing for more regulation in Healthcare (and Education) than I would suggest is needed in regular markets. Security is even more regulated as the state must have a monopoly on the legal use of force, and with that comes the duty to protect its citizens.
You can order most lab tests yourself. Those might not be covered by your health plan.
https://www.labcorp.com/patients/buy-or-request-test-online
Primary care physicians can do a lot to help you. Jumping straight to a specialist is usually a waste of limited resources. But some types of health plans such as a PPO don't necessarily require a referral in order to pay for a specialist claim.
The demand is inelastic, the supply totally is elastic in a normal situation, but it is made inelastic by regulations, restrictions, etc.
Some brief reading suggests that the supply of physicians is constrained by a cap on public funding residency slots lobbied for by the AMA.
Most of the funding for residency programs comes from the federal government, specifically Medicare. (Other organizations are free to fund residency slots separately from Medicare.) Congress imposed a cap on that funding and hasn't significantly increased it in years. At one point the AMA lobbied for the cap but they have since reversed their position and now lobby for an increase.
Licenses to practice medicine are granted by state medical boards. There's no limit on those as long as you meet the criteria.
Cause I wonder if some people might take "poorly regulated" to mean "just not regulated enough", which I think is probably not the issue.
https://www.cms.gov/healthplan-price-transparency/consumers
Service quality and outcomes are almost impossible to assess in a way that would be useful to consumers. Like if you see that a heart surgeon has a high rate of patient deaths then that could mean he's a quack, or it could mean he's extremely skilled and takes on the hardest cases that other surgeons won't even attempt. One thing consumers can do is check state public records for disciplinary actions.
State Senator Chris Larson called Ascension “a profit machine that punishes the sick and rewards the greedy.”.
> I'm a rabid defender of the free market, but healthcare is not a regular market because nobody chooses to purchase healthcare services. You take them at whatever price they are offered whenever you need them. It's why we call users of these services "patients", not "consumers".
Part of your answer is based on the idea that demand for healthcare is "almost perfectly" inelastic. Do you have any evidence that this is true? I'm fairly certain this is just not true, at all.
People given free ability to consume more healthcare will absolutely consume more of it, doing extra tests that might not be necessary, visiting the doctor for things that otherwise they wouldn't.
Even more than that, if you have a terrible toothache at 2am, would you wait til morning or pay extra to visit a 24-hour dentist, if one exists? Different people will answer this differently, and I assume price factors into this quite a bit. Which services are available 24/7 is very elastic, how fast services are available is elastic, etc.
In fact, one possible answer to "Why are Americans paying so much more for healthcare" is because Americans are richer, and are paying more for everything.
The reason it costs less is because there are no administrative staff at all aside from the receptionist. interfacing with insurers requires an entire back office of non revenue employees that DCPs do not need to bother with.
You can also save a lot of money in HDHP by ordering your own tests from a reseller like ownyourlabs instead of having the hospital doing it, especially if you like doing annual preventative tests that may not be medically necessary. I bring the results to my dpc doctor for review and it's all very convenient.
These are usually small independent offices not in a hospital so they will be doing their own marketing. look around for family clinics in your area the old fashioned way too.
In a way, I would not be surprised that is the case in maybe 10 or so years. And I expect this AI will be run by Health Insurance Companies. We already seeing a bit of that.
It is time for the US Gov to stop collecting bribes (contributions) and "man up" to fix Health Care, even if it means they will lose their job. Congress is suppose to serve the community, not private health care and other fortune 500 companies.
In the past I was in the hospital for about 10 days with pneumonia and at the time I had a standard PPO plan that only covered up to 90%. I was all of a sudden on the hook for thousands of dollars for medical bills , as my stay was over $100K in expenses and that was about 15 years ago. It's not like you can shop around for ER's when you are severely ill. I did make sure that the hospital was in-network before I went to it though. I can't imagine what the cost would be now. Luckily I had the means to pay these bills, but I would have saved a lot of money if I had a HDHP.
https://apnews.com/article/how-to-shop-for-health-insurance-...
* https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/insurance-companies-arent-the-...
The margins and ROE for health insurance companies aren't that big, health providers on the other hand…
Of course that doesn't necessarily mean the insurance companies are useful:
* https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/health-insurance-is-a-rac...
But given the realpolitik of when Obamacare was passed, the current US system was probably the only way at the time to get to universal healthcare. The ACA barely managed to get passed after all (219–212 and 60–39):
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Care_Act
“Politics is the art of the possible, the attainable — the art of the next best.” ― Otto von Bismarck
There's no downward pressure on these prices except what the insurance companies can negotiate, and people don't like the insurance companies doing that when their health is on the line.
ie, It's a total market failure, and single payer would fix things, at the expense of all the profits of the 3 largest factors.
Be very careful what you wish for.
Japan has been suffering a chronic and severe shortage of doctors and other medical staff because pay is too low. More recently, certain medicines both prescription and off-the-shelf have been exhausted due to overdemand and undersupply from government-mandated low prices.
The low pay in turn has been linked to hospitals running on essentially zero margin, so they can't pay more even if they wanted to. That in turn has been linked to Japan's national healthcare insurance system and other government mandates, with arguments everyone here has probably heard enough already.
While physicians in the US are paid much more than any other country, there's not a huge difference for nurses.
People like to make comparisons to physician salaries in other countries but ignore the fact that the education is significantly cheaper or even free in those countries.
Additionally, the US forces newly minted medical school graduates into a forced regime of working for 3-10 years at minimum wage to get qualified as a doctor (ie medical residency). During that time, their debt balloons from $300K+ to $500K+ because many residents can't afford anything more than minimum payments.
And if that wasn't bad enough, there are increasingly gap years built into the system to make you more competitive. This could be a Masters (and more debt) or practical experience after undergrad to get into medical school. There is an increasing need for a "research year" after medical school to get into competitive specialties.
So you might be 38 years old and have spent 20 years studying post-high school by the time you are earning those big bucks and you have to recoupe maybe $700k+ in debt.
There are negative societal outcomes for a high cost of education. Just like there are for housing. Yet people want to gatekeep both for some reason.
Cosmetic surgeons I have heard pay about half their salary into malpractice insurance. I do not know how you fix the litigiousness of consumers - that is a cultural problem.
Edit: We should also pay attention to the power of the hospital lobby in keeping costs high.
- businesses are more optimized and driven to improve efficiency and metrics.
- technology for record keeping has improved so that the threat of debt is more scary (can’t just flee to another state, etc)
- people are more reliant on the industrialized healthcare system to full that need than in the past (less countryside medicine, etc)
- the legal system supporting doctors keeps strengthening (government recognized experts in many more areas)
- more inequality. One person who will pay covers 10 who won’t.
If I'm unconscious after a car accident, I can't get quotes from competing ambulance firms or negotiate prices.
If I'm in hospital and they say I need surgery, they can't guarantee my insurance will cover the full costs - or tell me what it'll cost me should my insurance not pay.
In any other market, we'd call people agreeing to services they didn't know the prices of fools, and people billing for services customers hadn't asked for scammers. But due to the unique nature of the healthcare industry, such things are normal.
The most ethical approach would be to separate care into health care and medical care. Health care should be strictly preventative and diagnostic and be free.
Healthcare as defined below is outrageously expensive to begin with. Going to hospital and seeing some resident for 5 minutes after having a nurse take your blood pressure and weight shouldn’t result in the insurance company being billed $1000.
Part of this resolution will be introducing far cheaper labor and automation. One point people never want to concede is that the actual cost of labor is increasing without commensurate productivity, aka cost disease. Free health and medical care will exacerbate this.
Medical care should be pay for yourself or purchase private insurance.
Medical care here is defined by actual treatment such as surgery, whereas health care includes diagnostics such as a yearly assessment, blood tests, etc.
Of course, it’s easy to want others to pay the bills.
Whether that's best done by the government or private institutions is left as an exercise for the reader.
Health care in the US is definitely stupid and bad and can easily be made better than it is, but all the easy sounding obvious right answers that would fix everything about some aspect of life usually don't pan out in practice.
In any case the extremely poor already have free insurance in the form of Medicaid so not relevant.
Also under the "Medical care should be pay for yourself or purchase private insurance" policy Medicaid would not exist because it is neither of those.
Why should you pay, for example $100,000 so someone who is 85 can live to 86? Sometimes it’s time to accept reality.
And since this is capitalism, if one guy offers that (an obvious benefit, or so it seems at least), their competition must do the same. Now the marketing department has us convinced that insuring only for major expenses (high deductible plans, basically) is stupid and that good coverage means only paying copays (which are also on the rise, duh). And it's easy to convince the public of that because paying a $35 copay for a 10 minute exam is still an easier pill for most of us to swallow than $100 or $200 self pay for same, since we're not thinking about the $15,000 premium which can be made nearly invisible to the consumer if their employer is paying for it, etc. Numbers made up of course, but I think the scale is reasonable.
I don't have all the answers, but I do think it's obvious that capitalism is not the correct approach if your goal is a healthy population.
If you win, they spend their bid to keep you alive; if they win, they pay out your bid to your next of kin when you die. A perfectly Pareto-optimal solution of revealed preferences! /s
Doctors can be sued for malpractice if they miss something, so they're incentivized to provide as much care as possible, regardless of cost.
Hospitals and other healthcare organizations are likewise incentivized to charge as much as they can, since the bills are passed on to insurance companies.
Insurance companies have every incentive to lower the bills they pay. They negotiate volume discounts with healthcare corporations, and the billing system that gets worked out between these large organizations has little connection to the actual cost of healthcare provided to consumers.
For most consumers, insurance coverage is connected to employment, so it's very difficult to shop around. It could mean leaving one job for another, just to get different health coverage.
Inefficiencies abound. We can do better, but there is not a simple solution to this.
You could probably eliminate a lot of these inefficiencies by eschewing any sense of morality or fairness and simply letting more people die. Society isn't quite ready for this level of dystopia, but it's the direction we're headed if we don't change course. Nationalizing the US healthcare system may be the best answer, but it is guaranteed to be enormously complicated, and not guaranteed to improve outcomes.
A single-payer system is the conceptually simple solution to this. We could get there either by expanding Medicare to cover everyone (M4A), or we could add a public option to the ACA that is priced and funded to outcompete the private options.
In practice there would be enormous complications in managing the transition, but the evidence is that it would improve both costs and outcomes unless it is being sabotaged by an austerity-focused government (like the NHS in the UK).
When I was very young, I remember my father and uncles talking about hospitals becoming "for-profit" in the late 60s. They all agreed that eventually health cares main purpose will be to get all the sick person's assets. That is where we are now.
One can view standards that maintain a certain level of quality as privileging the well off, requiring an industry to cater to their preferences over those of other classes of consumers.
Which granted the companies guaranteed payment from every American when not nearly every American was paying before.
There's plenty more on top of that, it's only one fundamental.
Yes, price discrimination, lack of pricing transparency, excessive administration costs, etc all add to spending. But at the same time we know that a lot of chronic diseases are increasingly common, that we have a large number of aging boomers, and that new, effective but expensive drugs (e.g. semaglutide) are being prescribed to both people that need them and perhaps some that "need" them, so there are simultaneously good reasons to expect healthcare spending to go up.
If we can't track both the price and the care delivered, we can't really see if the efficiency of care delivery is getting worse (though it probably is). If we don't have metrics that compare care delivered to care required, we can't tell if we're failing to care for our population ("Bob needs X but can't get it because he can't afford it") or over-prescribing and testing ("Alice may not need Y but her GP put her on it to cover bases").
The system is broken. The players are corrupt. But measuring spending only does not really illuminate the issues.
The cynic in me thinks “they” will make it illegal or lucrative to not talk about the problems. May be they will spin up yarn like they do for school shootings and made half the country be fully ok with school shootings.
Why do people think someone else should pay their medical bills?
We can afford to, and collectively it's cheaper.
If we take care of our people they're happier, healthier and more productive.
People can pay for their medical bills with taxes. It happens all over Europe.
Spreading risk is useful for things like house fires where the odds are low and the costs are high, it fundamentally doesn’t work for annual doctors visits.
I don't think this is _overtly_ what's making premiums rise. However, if more people did this, the shared odds would be lower of people needing major, catastrophically expensive interventions later. I understand why they (myself included) don't and these things are all intertwined: they can't get time off of work, don't have anyone to watch their children, are afraid of something being found and needing to see a specialist, etc. and having costs balloon.
Without having read the paywalled article yet, I suspect that said interventions are only a small part of the equation, though, and the primary driver of costs are greed-flation, middlemen (e.g. billing), etc.
PS: Several studies have shown preventive screening in aggregate doesn’t significantly reduce total healthcare costs. It tends to uncover enough additional issues to offset the savings from treating things early.
What people don’t want is their doctor saying they need something while a guy in a suit tells them they can’t have it. To make matters worse the patient pays for the guy in a suits e class.
There are basically two groups of people involved in this.
Those that have not had a loved one denied needed care by an insurance company who they pay and those that have.
If you cannot identify the twisted profit motives in the American health care system that is your problem.
I don't know enough about the industry to have a really solid opinion on single payer vs not. However, I don't think that for-profit corporations is a good match for most (if not all) types of insurance. It puts too much incentive for them to screw over the policyholders and their dependents.
Why answer a question and then ask one that requires the same answer?
Health is something you can influence but that you don't have total control. I prefer the world where if I am the unfortunate person at least the society will help me. Having health issues is already bad enough. I am willing to pay some of my money for that purpose. It doesn't impact my quality of life when I pay for someone else's medical bills but if I end up needing that I will benefit from it a lot. So the cost it totally worth IMO.
Nearly pure parasitization.
The fact this baffles many just shows how unhealthy America is.
In October 1942, FDR signed the Stabilization Act of 1942, which made it illegal for anyone to raise wages. Employers, who were now struggling to attract workers in a time of inflation, started looking for other ways to attract them, and many decided to start offering health insurance as a benefit.
This eventually became the new norm.
Brief list of problems:
1. It's too expensive to become a doctor. Unless you come from a relatively affluent background, a freshly-minted doctor will graduate with $300k+ in student loan debt. After 3-10 years of working minimum wage (ie residency) that debt will be $500k+. Salaries need to be high to cover that. Everyone pays for that input cost, a lesson we're also failing to learn from increased housing costs too.
If anyone complains about physician salaries and points to other countries, particularly in the EU, ask them about the debt required to become a doctor in the US vs whatever country they bring up;
2. For-profit healthcare incentivizes taking money and then not paying for medical care to increase profits. The industry calls any payout they have to make a "medical loss";
3. The ban on importing medicines and Medicare negotiating drug prices needs to go. All it does is make drugs WAY more expensive in the US than any developed nation, often by orders of magnitude;
4. Even so-called not-for-profit foundations that own hosptials and medical providers are little better because, for example, the executives can be incentivized to icnrease assets under administration, just like a mutual fund. And any such money put into assets isn't being spent on healthcare. This needs to stop.
5. More artifical barriers. As just one example, physicians are legally forbidden from owning hospitals. This provision was snuck into the ACA;
6. Standardize electronic health records. EPYC is a scam and more rent-seeking;
7. Federal research dollars should come with equity in any drugs commercialized from that research. Drug companies don't do research, much as they claim to. They spend their money on marketing, lobbying and patent extension;
8. Patent reform. Drug companies make pointless changes to molecules and stop making the version that goes out-of-patent. No one else can produce it because parts of the manufacturing process are hidden (eg trade secrets) and, even if you can, you can't verify what you've produced is compliant with the approved version;
9. The state should produce generics. Insulin, epi pens, that sort of thing. Price gouging on these should be a crime. Some states are or will be producing insulin.
This can be solved easily by not requiring a bachelor's degree before getting into medical school. It is wasteful, especially when the bachelor's degree can be in any field such as music or computer science.
If you're going to go to medical school, you technically have to do a pre-med program with required courses like Organic Chemistry. Now some of these are relevant to medical school but some (like OChem) are viewed as a weed-out [1].
Could you just do a straight medicine degree out of high school? Yes. How much shorter would it be? You can look at other countries for this.
The US system is getting worse too because there's an increasing demand for gap years to make your applications competitive. That means a gap between undergrad and medical school where you're padding your resume. That might be doing a Masters or it might be practical experience. That's potentially more debt and more interest on your debt.
The residency application process is a nightmare. For competitive specialties you might need another gap year after medical school to do "research", That position can be low-paid too so, again, more debt. And you'll be even older by the time you're a doctor.
If you fail to match the first time you try, you're in a bad place. You're going to be less desirable as a candidate the next year if you try and match again.
[1]: https://forums.medicalschoolhq.net/t/why-organic-chemistry-i...
https://students-residents.aamc.org/medical-school-admission...
First, licensing for USMLE requires passing 3 exams, Steps 1 through 3. Step 1 and 2 happen in medical school Step 3 in your intern year. Step 1 went pass/fail a few years ago. The idea is to not give too much weight in residency applications to scoring well. But all that's happen is that program presitage is now a more important signal.
Second, most of the cost of an education comes from medical school, not undergrad. Medical school can easily run $60-70k/year. So you'd save time on a 6 year program but not necessarily much money.
Third, how prestigious is that medical school? This really matters for residency. For a medical school education to work as a doctor in the US you really have 3 options:
1. An MD program;
2. A DO program.
3. An international (typically Carribean) program.
They are ranked from most to least prestigious, so much so that even though international students who participate in the match process still have a relatively high overall match rate, they almost never match into highly-competitive specialties.
The point is you can save money but you might be limiting yourself to being an internal medicine or family doctor.
The military is another option but that's a whole other topic with various advantages and disadvantages.
Capitalism is great, as long as there is some amount of regulation. And healthcare is an area where this is definitely needed.
Are you suggesting that healthcare is demand elastic?
Healthcare is notably inelastic. Do people eat more 8x more paracetamol in the the Netherlands than in Switzerland, because it's a better deal? No I suspect they both take it for pain when they have pain. That's demand inelasticity.
With that in mind, in what sense is rising spending on healthcare a negative? Isn't this exactly what we'd expect in a functioning market economy -- that folks with more money[2] will spend more money on stuff, including healthcare?
For example, when we look at raw spending numbers in any other area (food[3], for example) we also see rising spending in absolute terms. Does this signal a failure of capitalism w/ regards to production and distribution of food? Obviously not.
[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/184955/us-national-healt... [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/184968/us-health-expendi... [2] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N [3] https://www.statista.com/statistics/237211/average-food-expe...
This sparked an interesting conversation between me and my half-sister. She said the following:
"Here's a lot of why people are angry - lets say I get a form of cancer that could be cured, but the cost is $200,000. But I'm 19 years old, come from a poor family who can't afford insurance, can't afford insurance myself, and haven't even had a chance to make $20,000 in my life, let alone $200,000.
Now I'm using a 19-year old as an example, but morally the dynamics don't change even if I'm 89 - it's not like I wanted to get cancer.
Talking about economic systems in this type of situation rings very hollow. And it makes people question why they should be a member of such a society or defend it. Capitalism is so great that it must constantly and relentlessly defended with online posts on all platforms."
I don't agree with my half-sister. People died of horrible, curable diseases in communist/socialist regimes as well, and they couldn't really even try to use wealth to improve their situation unless they were corrupt.
I really think the problem is that individuals are just not being capitalistic enough with healthcare. Healthcare companies are publicly traded and you can buy stock in them, and since people always need healthcare, it's a great way to build assets which you can then use to purchase healthcare later. It might even be a good idea to replace social security with government stock purchases in healthcare companies.
As an asset class, healthcare companies don't consistently have a higher ROI than any other sector. Regular people should generally diversify their investments with broad index funds rather than making concentrated bets in a single sector.
There's a large system set up to interface with insurance. It adds massive process overhead.
You don’t see the cost of the electricity on your bill either, but it’s going to be passed on.
Doctors can’t directly bill anyone for this time so they simply bump up other charges to compensate, the same way they cover rent or the office phone bill.
But it is still hard for me to believe that these companies are all okay with robbing each other, just because the margins make sense somewhere else down the line.
So the good part of capitalism don't work, but the bad parts do, like concentration of power and ignorance of externalities.
And today, we have reached a tipping point in those, with abuses overcoming people's tolerance for them.
The reason is simple, for profit healthcare, simple as that.
In my area I am old enough to remember when all hospitals where I live where run by various charities. My small city of 100,000 people we had 3 hospitals. 2 run by Roman Catholics and a third was non-profit. Back then things were kind of cheap when compared to what people's salaries were.
Now there is only 1, owned by Tufts. The non-profits were pretty much eliminated in the late 80s or early 90s, and no one can pay their hospital bill without insurance. Even with insurance it is very hard to pay up.
So there is your answer :)
The 2 Catholic hospitals I referred to were run by 2 different Catholic Orders, one based in Quebec and I think the other was based in the US. Those 2 "merged" and then they were purchased by the third, then later on became that one became owned by Tufts sometime within the past couple of years.
Now I would not be surprised Catholic Charities is the only one left. Also these days seems all charities have started chasing "profits" too.
https://www.sensible-med.com/p/the-entire-healthcare-system-...
If you look at per capita health care spending over the last 50 years in the US and other first world countries what you see is that spending has increased at roughly the same rate in most of them.
That suggests that the increases aren't due to peculiarities of individual systems (e.g., the heavy dependency on for profit providers in the US) but rather due to something common to most health care systems.
Is this really a mystery. I would guess < 5% american adults know how to use a knife or boil an egg.