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Is ChatGPT Good at Search?

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My current setup

Kagi for search 10 euro

Yandex for search by image

Chatgpt 3.5 API for general things a few euros every 6 months

Copilot for autocomplete

Claude Sonnet for debugging 20 euro

Any reason not to upgrade your Kagi subscription to get assistant with chatgpt, sonnet, gemeni, etc? $25 would be cheaper than separate Kagi and Claude and gpt subscription no?

I tried that some time ago and found I prefer working with one model (chatgpt back then) with its interface and settings. But you are right a good reason to additionally switch to the ultimate plan would be more support for Kagi which I love. It would still be 2 subscriptions since my chatgpt is pay as you go on the ancient model via api.

It'd be nice if they underwent tests and developed fine-tuning data that was proven to work rather than using fine-tuning data made to cater to human preferences.

When I would look at Copilot's searches, it was as juvenile as what my grandma would type right after I taught her what a search engine was.

I still have yet to find ChatGPT useful for topics where I have no clue what the right answer is. It's still not reliable or specific enough.

I use it for things that I know the answer to, but takes much longer to implement by hand. It works relatively well for that. If it does not know, I can nudge it in the right direction, and is still faster than doing it by hand. I built many projects with it. I could have built them by hand, and indeed I started, but have not completed. I finally managed to finish projects I have not finished prior to this because there was just so much to do and so little time.

I use it for cheap one off stuff

I stopped using LLMs entirely. Proper googling, which isn't broken, btw, doesn't cost that much more time, I realised and it let's me have more secondary and ternary related factual info that I didn't ask for, because how would I even know yet?

So spending just a little more time on the (re)search via standard methods provides me with more extensive, fact-checked, reviewed and discussed information than any of the LLMs that I used did.

Hmm, such as? What would you consider one off stuff?

Using aider to make a simple Python script to fetch that csv and graph it on matplotlib was an acceptable experience. The worst part is how Claude refused to use seaborn.

I used it to write a little bit of bash glue for a build system too. I’m no bash expert, but the script was only 20 lines, so I went through each and it was correct and I learned a bit of the % syntax.

Not really something I like spending $20 a month for, so nowadays if i feel like using ai I just use llama.

Isn't this more of an "anything is better than google ad-ified and seo optimized trash pile" moment?

Even if the AI is wrong a percentage of the time, I almost prefer "dumb/buggy wrong" vs "capitalist lies wrong" Of course neither actually deserves a future.

It is useful for coming up with key words though

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