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Can we start banning hardware companies __after__ we have banned the selling of user data to the highest bidder (which might as well be Chinese companies)?

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Can we start banning hardware companies __after__ we have banned the selling of user data to the highest bidder (which might as well be Chinese companies)?

No. Do both. Why would we wait to fix one problem when we have two problems?

This just seems like distracting from the router issue, and taking the discussion off-topic.

Fuck no. There is NO effort at all here to go after surveillance capitalism, I don't give a shit what their press releases say about "protecting American's privacy." It's straight horseshit. The biggest offenders to American's privacy are squarely in Silicon Valley, and the only companies that ever end up in the Government's crosshairs are the big scary Chinese ones that are gonna use their algorithms to turn you into a communist or whatever the fuck.

And FWIW to anyone in power who happens to read this, I was plenty radicalized by my own experiences and those of my friends under capitalism. China didn't do shit.

This is a pretty poor take. Whoever is getting the information is going to use it for their benefit. The Chinese government is a scary government, this does not take away from or add to the US government being a scary government.

You're correct, and banning TikTok and/or TP-Link is not going to stem the flow of user data to the companies who sell it, not even a little bit. Hence my comment: this is not about protecting anyone's privacy, it's about keeping American tech companies on top.

I wouldn't be surprised if some (American) corporate lobbying was performed for this to be pushed through this way but given the numerous stories of how the CCP have practically _bullied_ their way into our markets with cheap(er) goods and/or services through state-sponsored subsidies, I would imagine that this is becoming the global response to a long-winded draw-down on the lessons of repercussions and self-reliance.

I agree with you on content but unfortunately you're communicating it very poorly. 1 notch down on the bile?

Apologies, Jingoistic nonsense that parrots talking points about actual problems that need solutions, in this case, reigning in user data collection in service of protectionism for precious American companies to continue their unethical behavior makes me puke.

Apologies, Jingoistic nonsense that parrots talking points about actual problems that need solutions, in this case, reigning in user data collection in service of protectionism for precious American companies to continue their unethical behavior makes me puke.

It could be a GIRD or acid reflux condition. Civil discussions online shouldn't cause vomiting. You should probably see a doctor about that.

I think it’s a better written and more earnest comment than most I see on this site.

I completely disagree, I appreciate the passion. Please stop treating your personal aesthetic preferences as objective.

ToucanLoucan's message has some great discussion points but the half of the thread doing something useful with them only got there by managing to ignore the "fuck no shit horseshit fuck shit" portions. Even if one labels that as an aesthetic choice over one core to what promotes quality online conversation, fulmination isn't a requirement of conveying passion.

Wasn't there a thing about the government wanting Google to divest something? Chrome?

that's never gonna happen, China has far less power here than the US oligarchs have over what passes and what dies in committee.

No. Every cent of profit counts. /s

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