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I still haven't seen a convincing drone video.

The last one I saw was someone on Facebook posting what is clearly a video of an airplane coming in for a landing at Newark Liberty International, which is all of three miles away from us.

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And you will never see it. The whole source of all this "aliens" hysteria is precisely because all our natural or artificial optics have an outer boundary range, where they still can see something but it is barely resolvable, or barely trackable, or barely visible at all. If the "aliens" were closer to the optics, or the environment conditions were clearer then human could always understand what it was and so the story would die immediately. Or alternative if "aliens" are too far from the optics or the weather is too bad, then there is no record and also no story to be had. "aliens" will always remain right at the edge of the optical capabilities, because that's what they are in 100% of cases - misidentification or optical effects.

PS: I also refuse to use doublespeak and call them OOPS, UAPS and whatever else ufologists have invented to legitimize their lies. They all look for "aliens" and we should call these illusions accordingly.

All you need is press about one mysterious looking unidentified object, and then everyone starts looking up and filming anything creating a snowball effect.

It's frustrating how terrible the captured data is. Don't we have low cost high resolution, high zoom, nigh vision cameras that someone in a hotspot could use?

On the other hand, we have military base ATC shutting down the airspace due to danger caused by numerous drones, so it's definitely not nothing.

The military can obviously take precautions over nothing. It's made of people. But they're probably just taking precautions over fools flying DJI drones to find the mystery drones.

And yes, there are plenty of good low light cameras out there, but strangely we still don't have good video of unexplainable drones. Maybe they're using cloaking devices! /s

I assume the military is as familiar with ass-covering as anyone else, if not more so.

We do have high quality images of the drones, the problem is that when someone whips out their camera, it winds up being an aircraft.

Confirmation bias I think

You only see the terrible quality video because if it were high quality, you would be able to identify the object

And thus it would no longer be a UFO

You're not looking very hard then, as my coworker shared videos from his own back yard with our team

can you post them here?

We're not disagreeing that people are sharing videos, but they're almost all airplanes, stars, and small civilian drones. I'm certain this is the case with your coworker's video as well.

I just saw a video posted to a drone mystery Facebook group where the “drone” had the word “United” emblazoned on the side…

that one is making the rounds - but that is like 1 out of 1000 samples. denialists are leaping onto this post as though it represents the entire situation.

> denialists are leaping onto this post as though it represents the entire situation

Sounds easy to pick out the one which shows the mystery drone and share that then.

Can you share the most convincing video(s) you've seen? I've spent more time than I care to admit combing over these threads on HN and other places, and haven't seen a single video that I don't readily recognize as an aircraft (fixed or rotor) or simple DJI-style quadcopter.

edit: I forgot to mention the category of plainly digitally altered.

I've been trying to look very hard just out of curiosity, and I've drowned in hoaxes.

If you can point some videos of really strange appearances that aren't airliners or other aircraft I'd very much appreciate, right now it's quite hard to find through rummaging the internet, the hysteria has taken over.

That's quite a statement. You make it sound like people haven't done their due diligence unless they have infiltrated your team's internal comms and dutifully searched it for potential drone videos.

Ok. I assume he lives in a dense area, near airports, and his videos looked like blurry lights in the night sky, with nothing near them to establish an objective size, or even speed?

I've seen plenty of them. I am more alarmed by all the denialists out there who are proudly proclaiming that nothing is happening. Airspace above military bases IS being closed due to UAP activity. There are indeed plenty of videos showing obscure behavior, glowing orbs, etc. The signal noise ratio is tough to comb through - and there is a lot of noise - but something is happening.

Do you have any links to share?

Like you said, the signal to noise ratio is really fucking rough right now and I simply cannot find anything interesting in the sea of noise.

I think there is drone activity (complete with FAA compliant lighting!) However those 'glowing orb' videos just appear to be people who don't know how to focus their cameras.

And currently, both Jupiter and Venus are very bright and prominent in the night sky.

The signal to noise of these videos is horrendous.

The top posts on twitter are pictures of lense flares next to the biblical angel Thrones. The next 10 posts are clearly fake or debunked videos of planes.

I’ve yet to see any kind of pattern emerge after two weeks so I’m convinced this is a garbage story at this point.

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