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I don't have them hidden. I can't find anything derogatory about women; rather, the comments point out perceived hypocrisy around naming genders in titles. The comments about Nadia specifically were great, including a dead comment saying what a blessing she is to the rails community.

> Ruby on Rails community is so lucky to have Nadia

Another dead comment says it's not impressive, but doesn't mention gender.

Two dead comments calls the title sexist.

One dead comment predicts there will be misogyny.

Two comments say "who cares if it was a woman"

One comment laughs about "woke" complaints while being the only comment to use the word.

I think that's all of them.

I understand that putting "woman" in the title triggers a lot of talk about gender, which is off-topic and boring, but I don't really find any of the specific comments notable, hateful, or oppositional.

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>I don't really find any of the specific comments notable, hateful, or oppositional.

The fact that gender is mentioned at all, when it's never mentioned in posts that have "one man dev team" in the title, doesn't imply anything to you?

Yes, it implies that calling attention to things done by women is a trigger for gender discussions. I think trying to make arguments about why they are triggering requires you to make a lot of assumptions about people who aren't yourself.

>discussions

That is a charitable way to read the flagged comments.

What about your comments?

Are we not at a point where it would be vastly more appropriate to title this "one person dev team"?

The reality is your gender has nothing to do with your ability to write software. Software is the greatest of equalizers.

There is definitely a subset of society that feels it necessary to thrust gender into discussions where they have no place - such as this article.

Are we supposed to be more impressed because it was a female? Why?

>Are we not at a point where it would be vastly more appropriate to title this "one person dev team"?

Sure! I just find it interesting that these discussions only happen when "woman" is in the title, and never when "man" is in the title.

>There is definitely a certain subset of society that feels it necessary to thrust gender into discussions where they have no place - such as this article.

As long as you feel the same way whenever you see "one man dev team" or similar, I think that can be a good discussion.

I agree with you entirely - however allow me to illustrate a point:

I think the difference often is the intention of the writer. We get these types of headlines when people want to really promote how cool it is a female is capable of doing something - and we're all supposed to be amazed. That's pretty sexist if you think about it... of course a female is capable of writing high quality software! We should be amazed at what this person achieved because it is impressive on it's own merit - not because of the person's gender.

However, nobody is reading a headline like "one man dev team" and thinking "you go dude!".

It's a two-way double-standard that we should work on ending.

> We get these types of headlines when people want to really promote how cool it is a female is capable of doing something - and we're all supposed to be amazed

I think you're reading way too much into it.

Maybe they're just a women, and they did a turn on the phrase "one man team" to acknowledge that they're not a man?

> to acknowledge that they're not a man?

I think that was my original point - who cares?

It adds nothing of value to their accomplishments, nor the article.

If anything, it detracts from the accomplishment. "Look how cute it is that the females are trying to code, applaud them!" - is the sentiment that comes out of it. It's the same affect as these all-female movie casts that then get promoted as "look how great it is that the cast is all female" instead of "look how great this movie is".

In general, we should just say person. Allow the accomplishments to carry themselves. If they are good, people will respond.

> Are we not at a point where it would be vastly more appropriate to title this "one person dev team"?

People see person and man as synonyms. One man dev team and one person dev team would illicit the same response but one woman dev team forces people to comment on the title.

I think there is a lot of reactionary sentiment, sometimes misplaced, stemming from decades of articles where gender is the newsworthy aspect of the article.

Almost no one will read "one man Dev team" and think that gender is the central point, opposed to a simple descriptor.

The same phenomenon occurs with race fairly often. It is not uncommon for professionals to take offense or question gender or racial qualifiers when other people describe them.

My take as well. People seem to think this should be a noteworthy accomplishment irrespective of gender. The source seems to be objection to perceived patronization of women, not not hate or disparagement of women.

I probably wouldn't have written the title that way. In the body of the article, identifying the gender feels much more natural.

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