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Comment by jillyboel | Hacker News Reader

This tech is cute but the only viable outcomes are going to be porn and mass produced slop that'll be uninteresting before it's even created. Why even bother?

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There will be both of those things in abundance.

But I'm also seeing some genuinely creative uses of generative video - stuff I could argue has got some genuine creative validity. I am loathe to dismiss an entire technique because it is mostly used to create garbage.

We'll have to figure out how to solve the slop problem - it was already an issues before AI so maybe this is just hastening the inevevitable.

The real problem is that trust in legacy media hit rock bottom right as we enter the era where we would need such trust the most. Soon enough, nothing you see on video can be believed, but (perhaps more importantly) nothing must be believed either.

Comments like this one are so predictable and incredulous. As if the current state of the art is the final form of this technology. This is just getting started. Big facepalm.

I hope they're right. If the technology improves to such a degree that meaningful content can be produced then it could spell global disaster for a number of reasons.

Also I just don't want to live in a world where the things we watch just aren't real. I want to be able to trust what I see, and see the human-ness in it. I'm aware that these things can co-exist, but I'm also becoming increasingly aware that as long as this technology is available and in development, it will be used for deception.

That ship sailed shortly after the invention of photography. Photos were altered for political purposes during the US Civil War.

Now, we have entire TV shows shot on green screen in virtual sets. Replacing all the actors is just the next logical step.

That's exactly what I mean, all of those methods take some human effort, there is a human involved in the process. Now we face a reality that it might take no human effort to do... well, anything. Which is terrifying to me.

I do believe that humans are restless, and even when there is no longer any point to create, and it is far easier to dictate, we still will, just because we are too driven not to.

you know that there is still offline artforms like concerts theaters opera installations etc so i wouldn see it that negative. and we have nearly 100years of music and film we can enjoy. so maybe video is a dying artform for human to act in but there is so much more.

Have you already noticed the trend of image search results for porn containing inferior AI slop porn?

I have. It sucks. The world we're headed for maybe isn't one we actually wind up wanting in the end.

I like the idea of increasingly advanced video models as a technologist, but in practice, I'm noticing slop and I don't like it. Having grown up on porn, when video models are in my hands, the addiction steers me in the direction of only using the the technology to generate it. That's a slot machine so addictive akin to the leap from the dirty magazines of old to the world of internet porn I witnessed growing up. So, porn addiction on steroids. I found it eventually damaging enough to my mental health that I sold my 4090. I'm a lot better off now.

The nerd in me absolutely loves Generative models from a technology perspective, but just like the era of social media before it, it's a double edged sword.

It sounds like you have a personal problem that you’re trying to project onto the rest of society.

No, I'm providing a personal anecdote that some members of society that do have, or may develop, the same or similar problems are having both the (perceived) good and the bad aspects of those problems seriously magnified by this technology. This can have personal consequences, but also the consequences can affect the lives of others.

Hence, a certain % of the population will be negatively affected by this. I personally personally think it's worth raising awareness of.

The most predictable comment is yours, especially since you completely missed the point of the original comment which had nothing to do with the video quality.

AI generated slop content begets human generated slop comment.

So, even better porn?

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