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Google and Samsung going against Meta sounds as much as a cursed alliance than it was with GearVR.

I trust Samsung to execute excellently on the hardware and be ready to iterate, but will Google keep pushing the platform even if Meta also goes after regular android apps and crushes them commercially ?

Now that regulators are on Google's back, Meta getting accesss to the whole Play Store or at least being protected from Google's shenanigans is realistic, and the Meta store could potentially be decently competitive for regular android apps as well if they want to.

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Knowing how Google shuts down or forgets about products that don't make them a million billion dollars, I wouldn't invest into Google's XR ecosystem.

Do you remember Google also has an ecosystem for Android Tablets and Wearables? Do THEY remember?

Meta could sink in all that money because Zuck is really into that stuff.

What do you mean? They just released new tablet and watch hardware and accompanying OS updates.

Yes, the Pixel Tablet is now 1 year old.

Next move:

https://www.theverge.com/2024/11/21/24302508/google-pixel-ta...

I worked on the launches of many Android devices and actually worked on the OOBE of the GearVR, and it was by far the hairiest of them all, including the Nexus 10, where the Google execs made it to like Chicago before accepting that Hurricane Sandy wasn’t something imaginary cooked up to mess up their launch.

I'll take Google and Samsung over Meta.

Until Meta stops trying to force me to open an account to view things that should be publicly available i'll never be on board with them gaining more power. Not to mention that I believe their products are a net negative to society.

Most Quest users don't care about anything you said, and apparently their devices are selling very well.

"Very well" is subjective - they sold only something like 1 million devices, which is way below even Google Pixel phone numbers.

But regardless, i stated my position, not other people's position.

I'm not sure what you're pointing at precisely, is it the closing of Oculus account support and the aftermath ?

If so, is Google's Play Store allowing users with no Google account to download the apks ? Or the Google Nest Hub if we want to stay on hardware platforms.

The current ad infested and SEO bound internet comes straight from Google's influence. Same way current android repeated most of Apple's dark patterns, with all the blackmailing phone makers on the side.

TBH comparing Google and Meta feels like closing both eyes and choosing if the right side is darker than the left (I'm not saying we should forgive any, I just don't see one having a moral high ground at this point)

Yes, but also there's LLaMA

The hilarious thing is that Google already had a VR platform https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Daydream that they abandoned. Meta even offered to put Google Play on their headsets, but Google refused.

Same. I am afraid this won't go even as well as Wear OS watches or Android tablets.

Let's wait and see if apps will be 30% cheaper on Meta's store.

For anyone curious, current Quest Store fees are probably still 30%

https://www.techradar.com/news/metas-quest-2-game-store-fees...

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