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When Macron used the phrase “process of decivilization” it was vague to French observers. I think it’s very clear in an American context:

Can the CEO’s alleged murderer get a fair trial? Will we believe a verdict if it’s unanimous guilty?

Following the shooting, the richest man in the world noticeably carried his child on his shoulders; in front of him like a human shield.

Reading the decades before Elias, we should predict that Jan 6 combatants are not only pardoned but implanted into sensory positions in the next administration.

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We shouldn’t confuse sympathy for the killer’s motives with sympathy for his action. Many people dislike the US healthcare system, from numerous angles—medical, capitalist, socialist, insurance theorist. It’s terrible all around. That said no one actually thinks that killing executives will be a sustainable way to effect change. Even if a whole series of killers mowed down 10 healthcare CEOs in a year, all that would happen is that healthcare executives would get hazard pay and big security details. Most people, even the folks, understand this. A US jury will not nullify, especially after shown pictures of the man’s family.

> Even if a whole series of killers mowed down 10 healthcare CEOs in a year, all that would happen is that healthcare executives would get hazard pay and big security details.

Not so sure about that. Anthem Blue Cross already reversed a decision about anesthaesia coverage [1]. And this killing is already likely to inspire a lot of people to ask questions about U.S. healthcare and demand a better system. So I actually think that just this one killing will already effect change.

1. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-care/anthem-blue-cross...

The suffragettes, also had to use bombs before making progress.

Violence has worked for good in the last. The 40-hour work week was not achieved by simply asking.

> That said no one actually thinks that killing executives will be a sustainable way to effect change.

Oh? I think it would be rather effective—and no one expects it to be sustainable. One killing and the establishment media is already very clearly terrified. History teaches us that the only language understood by those who hold power is the language of force.

Comparing the circumstances of this alleged murderer with Kyle Rittenhouse, I don’t see a lot of confused people. Plenty of Americans seem to want more of one guy, or more of another.

Fox News is covering the change in CEO ambiance as you note. But, Fox News is conspicuously failing to acknowledge the public reaction to this vigilantism compared to their Carlson-era spirited sympathy for Rittenhouse. To counterpoint more specifically, I think Fox News promoted Rittenhouse as a sustainable way to affect change (via ratings).

We’ll see how Fox covers a trial. Shouldn’t Thompson have known better than to walk without security? What did United know about threats to him? Why was the pool of suspects so large, and how did cops go from bewilderment to finding a needle in a haystack?

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