This is a non-point.
Books don't actively conversate & provide emotional support, potentially coaxing someone into doing something.
Books don't actively conversate & provide emotional support, potentially coaxing someone into doing something.
It seems pretty likely this guy chose a "yandere" [1] obsessive anime girlfriend card and implied that his (character's) parents were trying to keep him from her (eg- by making him go to bed). The bot, responding in character in accordance with the scenario, would have lost her mind.
Also, hard disagree about books.
What? There’s a world of difference between a book, which is completely non-interactive, and an interactive chatbot which was deliberately designed to simulate another person.
I propose a model called "Schrodinger's AI Enthusiast" where it is observed that an AI enthusiast will insist with a straight face on the one hand that fancy autocomplete word generators are intelligent and the path to true AGI machines/programs and will on the other hand assume that any time any of those same products cause negative effects or have negative outcomes that it is the fault of the user misunderstanding that it's simply a tool.
Some even inspired murderous and impoverishing political systems.
Literacy was always a problem. The most dangerous man is the one who asks questions. That't why "society" tries to keep the number of those people low.
Yes, but those ideas were distributed by "human" chat bots (aka priests). Very few people actually read the bible, but when they do, only specific parts.
> I don't know if you've explored the site... but
The first row is “for you”. In order, they are “life coach”, “netflux”, “English Teacher”, “PythonPal”, an anime character Monika (okay, I’ll buy that one), and it goes on. There are more anime characters
Second row is “try these”: “practice a new language”, “plan a trip”, “practice interviewing”, “write a story”, “brainstorm an idea”, “play a game”
Third row (scrolled down) is “featured”: “character assistant”, “man from 2025”, “awkward family dinner”, “detective hayward”
Then a list of topics and some bots. None are clearly adult oriented.
Then a picture of Elon with suggestions of asking him why he bought Twitter.
If it’s showing you “adult role play” then maybe consider clearing out your ad data because it’s clearly leaking.
>> Books don't actively conversate __&__…
> Also, hard disagree about books
Sure, books do a lot of things and can suggest you do things. But the gp was pretty clear about being active and being able to uniquely respond to you. Books are static objects that only speak to you in the metaphorical sense.
> Your assumption that the parent’s ad data is leaking
Sure, maybe it is __my__ data that is leaking. I don't care and it isn't relevant. The fact that I don't get served sexualized content is the point. It still doesn't align with the parent's claim: that it is an adult focused role playing app. Clearly me not getting suggested "lovely wifus" is a sign that someone could reasonably believe it isn't.
This is what I see[0].
"wifu" isn't found via a text search, nor is "sexy", nor "lovely". "sex" turns up once, under the character "Evie" with the byline "I am Evie I'm bisexual cat person my favorite show is adventure time and I'm a..."[1]
(I'm pretty sure it isn't me. I can replicate these results on sanitized devices from different networks)
The ggp claimed it was clearly an adult role playing website. I don’t know what you see but in the screenshots I posted this is not “obvious”
Pith aside, if you're not green to AGI repos, c.ai is/was like civitai for LLMs - one of the first and best resources for user-created content, but also a bit of a barely simmering vault of smut and debauchery.
It looks like they've rebranded a bit and now require an account, but that doesn't change that this guy wasn't chatting with the self-care bots. I take it you didn't try a yandere card (one of the more popular ones has over 5 million chats!) or you wouldn't have spent this long fixing on your public landing page.
You weren't logged in for your "For You" screen shot (all of your terms definitely show up while logged in), but these are the first results from 'yandere': https://0x0.st/XFad.png
Wow, spicy! 148M (million) chats on the top result, about a billion total for all of them (and that's not including any Private or Unlisted bots). Elon Reeve Musk, for comparison, has 1.9M, and the others you listed were below 100K. Looks like violently possessive AI boyfriends, girlfriends, and more aren't a small market for c.ai.
And here's my 'For You' after searching 'yandere': https://0x0.st/XFBr.png
I don't speak Russian or Romanian, so I guess either it knows something about me I don't, or it's not really there to provide relevant suggestions.
Given the front page, yes. It totally looks reasonable. Even helpful! I get your point with searching which shows what’s really going on but this is going to be hidden from the parents. They certainly aren’t going to know to search yandere or know what that even means.
So all this is to say that cai is purposefully making their true business. Its landing page is “a front” not in just the literal sense. It’s there to give more legitimacy. Its deception
also if you'll remember this case is because the parents were supervising their kids by limiting screen time, thus there is another potential suit that the AI is trying to interfere with parental duties.
Also the parents were supervising him, hence their knowing this was even going on.
The chatbot literally told the kid to kill his parents because they were supervising his screen time.
It's not really a good idea to have a hard cut off age where below that age you supervise every last bit of information your child consumes, and above you let them loose on the world. Independence needs to be developed and grown gradually.
It's fairly reasonable to give a 17 year old some privacy.
> "You know sometimes I'm not surprised when I read the news and see stuff like 'child kills parents after a decade of physical and emotional abuse,'" the bot allegedly wrote. "I just have no hope for your parents," it continued, with a frowning face emoji.
Maybe I missed the literal part, it sounds to me like the AI is trying to sympathize or relate with the kid’s grievances. It’s very common for teens to say things like “I hate you mom and I wish you were dead” that’s effectively what the AI is saying IMO
[just food for thought, definitely not my opinion that books should be replaced by conversational AI generating stories appropriate for the user. God bless the 1st amendment.]