Hacker News Reader

Comment by _djo_ | Hacker News Reader

Same. This is a ridiculous mass hysteria driven by media sensationalism and ignorant members of the public.

Lol, also rep. Jeff Van Drew claiming without evidence that the drones are coming from an Iranian mothership off the coast.

In his defense, he is a Cold War relic.

He was 20 in 1973, that doesn't qualify as a CW relic. Not even a curio.

Relic from the Cold war, not a relic at the time of the cold war.

It still doesn't make sense. He was elected to Congress in 2018, long after the end of the Cold War. I think GP is just mixing him up with someone else.

Something tells me that if there were so much as an Iranian dinghy sitting off the coast, the military would be extremely aware of its presence. Monitoring absolutely everything that it did.

what/who ever that something is that is telling you that, i'd suggest a better source. it is part of the "game" that militaries the world over try to do things without their opponents knowing they were ever there. international boundaries are 12 miles of water, yet navy submarines get much much closer than that as a matter of course.

do you think the military or any 3 letter agency knows 100% where all foreign spies are within their borders?

Something tells me that if there were a bus-sized Chinese spy balloon floating all the way across the continental US, the military would be extremely aware of its presence.

(As I recall they were, but they would not publicly acknowledge it until the public sightings became undeniable.)

One of the channels that I follow is "What is Going on With Shipping" (its mostly about ocean going supply chain things and started with the Evergiven)... and today's video is: War of the Jersey Shore! | Did Iranian Navy Carriers Launch Drones Over the New Jersey? - https://youtu.be/hTpYN70tZ6Y

And since this is a "the Iranian mothership off the coast" - the info about where the drone carriers are is presented.

The video discretion links to other sites with info.

https://x.com/TankerTrackers/status/1866922032681652322

> Iran has two drone carrier vessels; the SHAHID BAGHERI and the SHAHID MAHDAVI. Both are located in the anchorage of Shahid Bahonar, Iran.

> We know this because we are looking at them right now.

Yes and where did he even get this from? Why do we have representatives literally making up stories and telling them to the American public? What is actually going on here?

Probably just made it up. He's a naked opportunist and there's no penalty in the GOP (or arguably in Congress in general) for being a shameless liar.

"...without evidence..."

What he claimed was "high" (high-level, I assume, rather than intoxicated) and "reputable" sources who needed to remain anonymous told him there was circumstantial evidence of this.

I don't see any motive for him to make this up, or for those sources to. Perhaps someone in some agency is jumping to conclusions on partial information.

Or perhaps this fits into the pattern of DoD officials, ex-officials, and whistleblowers spinning tales of UAP sightings and an official UAP retrieval program.

> I don't see any motive for him to make this up

To get people to pay attention to him?

>I don't see any motive for him to make this up, or for those sources to.

To whip up more hysteria against Iran?

Maybe. There's a pattern there, too. For example:

https://x.com/mtracey/status/1855682527756697724

> I don't see any motive for him to make this up

He's using this as an opportunity to paint the current federal administration, and state administration in NJ, as being incompetent, negligent and putting people in harms way.

It's standard politics.

Jaff Van Drew is endorsed by AIPAC and has received just over $100k from them.

The AA livery just means it’s a false flag attack. Truly, we haven’t seen such an invasion in Grover’s Mill, New Jersey since 1938.

I do wonder how many will get the reference.

The Red Lectoids were real!

Is that your gut feeling or do you know something the government isn't willing to reveal?

It’s essentially a null hypothesis. There doesn’t seem to be any actual evidence of anything. It’s all based on social media posts. It shows all the signs of being a mass panic.

The OP article put it like this:

> It is not known whether a group or individual might be behind the phenomenon, or whether any credible issue even exists – there has been speculation that the flurry of activity might merely amount to confusion over sightings of regular planes or be the product of social media distortions.

If you think there’s some real issue here, can you explain why you think that?

Other than social media, what other sources could the public rely on for something like this? Would local law enforcement observations suffice? What else would be publicly available?

Did you post this before or after taking the 10 seconds necessary to look up the Pentagon and White House responses to this, or the FBI's?

After. They're responding to the public and media uproar, and have to be seen as taking action in response to it, but they're clearly not massively concerned.

I don't doubt that there was some drone activity, but most likely it was regularly authorised operations or testing. Once the hysteria started you may have a few pranksters flying theirs just to add to the uproar.

But when media houses are publishing pictures of what are clearly commercial airliners and passing them off as unidentified drones you know we're in the middle of a mass hysteria moment.

Perhaps its satanic ritualists turned techo-optimists who are attempting to convert the public to their baby killing ways through drone-based mind control.

Just out of curiosity, I took a look at the map for Spring Lake, NJ. There's an airport ~7 miles inland. There's a national guard center just to the south. Just to the north, there's Sylvan Lake that looks like the profile of a jetliner.

What's this got to do with anything? Nothing, but it's no less of an explanation than what these people have proposed.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com