Hacker News Reader

Comment by kmnc | Hacker News Reader

The models themselves are going to be replaced by those same AI Impersonators. Onlyfans has to be the most predatory service I have ever used. You are pretty much signing up to be a target of scammers, whether they be some kids in the Philippines sitting with 20 phones, or AI bots, it has become incredibly obvious that every creator uses them. They all employ the same tactic of seeing how much you are willing to pay and then increasingly offering you more and more expensive content. A few years ago you could have some real conversations but now it is just glorified spam. Even if a creator wasn’t using these tactics, the water has been so muddied that you just assume it’s all fake now.

View on HN

I find it scary how many people I see online or even in real life that actually call girls on there their girlfriend and say things like 'sure it costs money, but so does yours when you buy dinner etc'. And no amount of; these girls are doing their job; you are a client, they forget about you the second you switch off, if their weren't bots on the first place seems to help.

you know multiple people IRL who refer to onlyfans models as their girlfriends? might be time for a new social circle

'know' is a bit much, see my other comment in this thread.

I’ve definitely had points in my life where I would have loved to have a girlfriend that forgot about me the moment I went away. I wasn’t seeking a relationship, I only wanted the physical part the rest was a headache.

There should be some hashtag for men forced onto relationships when all they wanted was the sex /s… but honestly, if roles were reversed this would totally exist

Do you mean that you want prostitute? You can buy time with one.

No. I’m aware of that industry but not really into it. Something like “friends with benefits” was usually my preferred arrangement. Normal, non sex worker, people but without all the extra stuff that comes with being in a relationship.

a non-committal relations on both parties is not an easy feat - as usually people have different goals and preferences.

I could well image if you looked like a young Clooney, it'd not be hard to arrange one night stands, either.

I have never seen anyone online or IRL say that. Could it be your social circle?

It's not 1:1 the same, but I think the episode "Take me private" from series "Hot Girls Wanted: Turned On", gives a glimpse into that.

It's released in 2017, so more cam-girl than OF model, but it shows a deeply parasocial girlfriend-stand-in relationship of someone that spends a good chunk of his disposable income on that. I think the now common OF model + chatters are an evolution of that has even more tendencies to create girlfriend-stand-in relationships.

Online: watch some episodes by Catfished (or so; there are multiple of these shows; kind of the same) on YT. I saw it on Reddit too.

Offline: I meet many people as I travel and skip company (I have a small company doing emergency software/hardware fixes, so jobs are very short and diverse) a lot and talk a lot with strangers for fun; sometimes we end up going deep in the night over beers and things come out. Usually they are somewhat awkward and lonely guys with the tendency to see women as things; that intersects often with programmers/engineers. These are not even the weirdest things I hear from strangers either.

You should write a book.

> Onlyfans has to be the most predatory service I have ever used

>> employ the same tactic of seeing how much you are willing to pay and then increasingly offering you more and more expensive content

Oh, in that way.

The porn industry being predatory?

Absolute shocker.

There's still plenty of avenues to have direct access to sex workers with varying levels of intimacy/realness if you cast a wide enough net. Just not necessarily with a top tier OF model! Though it seems like most people are satisfied with superficial interactions, in which case the AI bot approach might be a win-win.

I'm curious. Why did you use OF?

There were non-nude people on there, once upon a time. But the banking issues around XXX caused a mass migration to that service. I think originally it was supposed to be like patreon.

regardless, though, does it matter why?

I think a bunch of people around here used it for tutoring and yoga classes and such. It was meant to be a Patreon. But after a while, they stopped because everyone assumed it was "tutoring" and "yoga classes".

Perhaps this is why every platform ends up banning or pushing all the XXX to a red light district.

It was started by the founder of clips4sale and intended primarily for the findom kink. They really pushed the SFW angle early on as a way of hanging on to Stripe's low processing rates.

There are still people on there who make $$$ by pretty much just publishing Instagram-level stuff, but in bigger sets + videos. Most actual cosplayers moved off OF eventually and either sell directly or via Patreon now.

It doesn't always have to be hardcore, but the implication of having an OF is "porn star".

Reply on news.ycombinator.com