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Luigi's Manifesto

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My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there.

I wonder if he's right about that. I'm a professional developer and I have little faith that I can lock down everything. Not against a determined adversary, much less one with whatever special semi-legal voodoo the FBI has.

I wonder what the effect on quality-adjusted life years [0] is from the shooting. -30 for the shooter, but how many positive from improved health insurance policies? Probably thousands.

Perhaps someone will figure that out and publish a journal article called "Decreasing all-cause mortality through hyper-local plumboid injection".

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality-adjusted_life_year

> but how many positive from improved health insurance policies? Probably thousands

how did you come to this conclusion? what if it actually gets _worse_? What if the media attention blows over, the good or neutral actors end up eating the blame, some savvy corporations/politicians with skilled PR end up using the public anger to enrich themselves & make things worse for the public, and people still don't understand why the system isn't working?

I haven't seen any good information on what actually is the root cause and what are the solutions that will fix everything. I don't think this is a matter of greedy people blocking easy/obvious solutions.

it has brought to the attention of CEOs the fact that even though the individual shooter might be apprehended, the CEOs who push too far over the line might not make it home from their next shareholders meeting.

I think this is a unlikely outcome. The CEOs will hire more personal security and the company will pay for it. The job of a CEO is to maximize profit of the company, this is written in their contracts. So this is what they will do.

It's not that clear cut. Leaders have known and written for millennia on how tenuous their grasp is.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damocles#Sword_of_Damocles

that just means they will be prisoners in their own lives. no more just walking down the street, exploring places by yourself, meeting friends at small coffee shops at short notice - now they need to spend on security, always wait for them to check out the place first, always looking over their shoulders for traitors. it's the sort of thing that's driven kings mad.

They are not robots and they are not following an algorithm. They have plenty of flexibility and creativity to maximize shareholder value.

They're also easy to freak out - even Mr. Free Speech Absolutist got shaken by the news.

That's assuming policies actually improve, I wouldn't be so optimistic...

"The firings will continue until morale improves"

Won't somebody please think of the board members who will now be forced to buy smaller yachts!

Descending into barbarism has its costs as well.

US healthcare is barbaric

I think you're quite wrong about that, although of course it could be improved.

Not widely mentioned it seems in media

From huffpost website

Slain UnitedHealthcare CEO Was Accused Of Insider Trading Amid DOJ Probe Was said to sold 15M shares

Why is this flagged?

Lots of future unicorn CEOs on here?

I mean "temporarily embarrassed billionaires".

It's already been archived to Wayback Machine and Archive Today

I am interested to know why he fled at all.

Maybe he knew that it would keep the event in the news longer?

It is a bit short … ?

Full: https://pepmangione.com/manifesto/

This is fake. The domain name was bought 2 days ago. NBC and TMZ confirmed the short manifesto, you can also see it here: https://www.commondreams.org/news/luigi-mangione-manifesto

Upvoting for visibility, this is fake

> My queries to The New York Times, CNN and ABC to explain their rationale for withholding the manifesto, while gladly quoting from it selectively, have not been answered.

I mean..often mass shooters' manifestos aren't circulated because that was their goal after all. It feels like it's standard practice to take care with such things?

Freedom of speech? I believe in the freedom to hear. I have a right to hear what this man is saying, no?

Sure, that doesn't mean a commercial entity is required to convey what he is saying.

Then they should not be quoting from it at all if they are not going to release it in its entirety as without context quote can have completely different meaning.

But that's not true. Dorner's manifesto, Breivik's manifesto, the Charleston shooter's manifesto are all broadly available, I believe through mainstream media. Heck, there's a purported review this guy posted on goodreads for the Unabomber's manifesto floating around.

They weren't released like immediately though. Or at least some weren't I know. Because it's frowned upon. It's not because the MSM has some conspiracy against this guy (which OP does insinuate.)

While the outrage over murder has been generally directed at the shooter, it is worth pointing out that denial of healthcare also leads to deaths.

I'm surprized that this specific point isn't made in his manifesto.

Public discourse has made this point time and time again. Maybe he felt it didn't bear repeating? Or maybe the point was made via his actions.

That point is obvious from reading the manifesto. And that point has been elaborated many many times for decades from news articles to academic publications to film media, so why repeat the details in the manifesto.

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