Nightclub stickers over smartphone rule divides the dancefloor
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this screams "economists, behavioral economists, game theorists, sociologists and anthropologists" would love to study this"
people from all the above disciplines, where are you? this is your phd thesis
It doesn’t matter how much money you give to them, society think they’re still ugly, four eyes, nerds who deserve to be shoved in lockers. Remember that the only reason high functioning autists weren’t murdered by the nazis was dr.Hans Asperger intervening to convince the German high command that they can build rockets.
Look to how the internet uses “sperg” as a pejorative similar to intel. Forcing a neurotypical to listen to your “*tism” rant makes them literally want to murder you. Resentment against tech workers with money is off the charts in trump voting America. Ungrateful to say the least…
For those who put the effort, nothing will stop them, and they will be more than welcome. The idea is to filter out the smug ones who think they are higher human beings who don’t need to conform to the norms of such places like everyone else, and putting any effort toward such “intellectually plebian” entertainment is beyond them. So everything is kinda working as intended.
Generally I like the idea of people not being photo focused and if this is the fix, I’m fine with it.
But, to put Berlin on a pedestal of partying, especially compared to NYC, just screams “I have a very specific and narrow bias of what a good party is”. Let’s stop promoting a city that has formalized racist / nationalist bouncers into a “cool” thing.
In berlin clubs where those things are not allowed, they generally don’t ask you to put sticker on cameras, unless they want to look cool like those places.
Imho it helps multiple issues.
Compare that to a recent bookashade gig in Sydney, which was smaller but was basically a film club event. 100 squares of light on record at any point (all with the same camera UI!) .. older crowd who probably should have known better, at least according to the article.
The 'division' in this article comes from: >Some posted on Instagram concerns that clubs could suffer as social media videos of their night act as free adverts
Doesn't really paint the picture of this nightclub having its fanbase split in half arguing about whether it's good or bad....
It’s been everything from Brexit to Covid and everything in between.
20 years ago, they didn't need to interview extremists — staying neutral meant reporting on the centre viewpoint.
"Neutral" also doesn't have to mean "both sides".
Give me reporting with clear polemic any day, please. At least I can adjust for that and consume contrary polemics.
The glue on these stickers is like a strong post-it note. The sticker stays on the lens fairly reliably, but leaves no residue at all when you take it off.
Education about a proper CLUB/PARTY night goes a long ways.
In those clubs it's more necessary to prevent photos obviously, and that habit makes it more acceptable in regular clubs.
In the USA, photographing people from somewhere the photographer has the right to be is protected as freedom of speech with few exceptions, and is less likely to be seen as rude. Of course a business can still impose its own rules of conduct inside.
I don't see anything but phones in the air. I have attended some parties and concerts with stickers and they have insanely better vibes.
The second time was going to a club in Amsterdam (Shelter) in 2019.
I remember all the events more vividly, have a couple of interesting mental notes from all of them, and all of them are great material for conversations.
Also, it has the benefit of not watching the whole thing from a small screen which is fed from a tiny sensor, trying to keep image stabilized and convert the whole event to a challenge to capture low quality video (or set of photos) which I don't revisit.
Thanks for the paper, BTW.
I'll be very happy if there were high quality recordings to purchase, because I'd love to listen them over and over.
Then I've got a good photo or two, but I'm actually watching the show.
I never record video, though. Files several GBs big are simply too cumbersome to manage (and fill up my phone), and there's something profoundly stupid about watching something through a lense and screen when I'm physically right there in the moment.
I've only done this three times this year, it has to be something unusual. Videos of bands are generally poor (especially the audio) so there's better material on YouTube.
On the other hand, I understand what a photo like that means for the person who’s taking the photo. I’m both an amateur photographer and used to play in a symphony orchestra.
In my case, I both don’t want to potentially distract a performer, and don’t want to break my immersion and give my brain an excuse to be lazy. At the end, I leave every event happier and more satisfied.
Everybody is different and this is my perspective.
Then leave your mobile phone at home.
Many wouldn't be able to pay for anything.
I try to spend my time making memories, not taking photographs of others making memories.
Now I look back and wish I had more photos from the first 30 years of my life. Does posing for a few seconds really bother you that much?
Taking a photo doesn't mean you can't see the "bigger picture". Frankly, that's a very, very weak argument.
Additionally, I wish my parents had more photos of themselves so I could get to know them better, from days before I was even born.
Patron's privacy and safety is just a cover story.
OTH, one of the worse nights I went to to was in Geneva to see Lil Louis, and everyone on the dancefloor was just there taking selfies, it was utterly obnoxious.
Always grew up being told colleges and employers look you up, and that all it takes is one poor perception to kill an opportunity.
I know this isn't as true as it might have been conveyed, but I still worry about image and how so many employers seem to care what happens in peoples personal lives, when to me as long as I show up and am meeting the objectives and expectations then that's all they need to worry about. My employer isn't compensating me to live a specific lifestyle and invade my privacy, as long as I'm a good employee then it should not matter.
I limit my presence online that is "official" ie selfies,blog posts or anything of the nature. I see this as a CYA because I want to be fired for how I perform at work and that alone, and because its helping keep my privacy above the average Joe.
Also it makes me as a phishing target harder.
Taking it off gets you asked to leave when you’re seen holding up a phone.
I try to respect peoples privacy when, on the very rare ocassion I decide to take a photo in public, and try to avoid people in a shot.
If their was one thing great about covid, it normalized the rare few people who wear a mask in public for privacy.
Wish their was a more effective way to stop all those creepy cameras from recording your face, as they are used to track you and your location and activity and makes it harder to stay offline.
The traffic cameras got your plates, the CCTV is in many stores and outside, and unless you walk around covered in IR lights to blind cameras and wear a mask, you basically leave a digital footprint even if you leave all devices at home.
It doesn't stop people from doing it deliberately but it prevents the discussion between people holding up a phone and someone else thinking they're being filmed. If someone does that without the sticker it is immediately cause for calling security.
> People violating the rule will be "politely asked to stop", says Abbott. "If you are seen doing it again, you will be asked to leave the venue."
I'm past my clubbing days but can attest to seeing this in practice at a couple venues. Someone started filming one of their friends and both got promptly escorted to the door.
There's no weird guessing whether someone is really recording at the moment, no lengthy observation or excuses or negotiated results, it's a clear requirement with an immediate action.
P.S.: Come to think of it, masking requirements are similar: It doesn't matter if you "feel fine" or "it's just the sniffles" or "hayfever", you visibly wear a respiratory mask in this place, period. Too many people have abused that trust before and it's difficult/impossible to determine personalized exceptions.
I do actually have hayfever and wearing a mask all summer is not an option for other b medical reasons so I would avoid those but I have seen any in Europe.
also fun fact: jwz owns one
When I go to theaters they usually just tell me to turn off my phone or don't take pictures. It has the same weight because people who wouldn't listen would just take the sticker off easily.
If you would have paid attention to my comment you would know that my issue is not social signalling, my issue is getting glue on my phone for a childish reason.