I don’t know how Waymo can possibly compete with that. Their deployment by city is slow, their hardware is expensive, slown to produce, and not purpose built for self driving.
Because you're in the driver's seat supervising at all times? If it worked fully autonomously, you would be in the backseat.
Imagine 2 drivers, one does something dangerous every hour, the other every 1000 hours. If you observe them for one hour, they may appear identical to you. Yet, one is 1000x better.
> In what way is it non working at this point?
It's killing people:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/18/24273418/nhtsa-tesla-ful...
Granted, neither can many humans. But the bar should be many times higher if the operators are relieved of liability.
Tesla’s latest FSD beat Waymo by 30 minutes. Same route and same time of day.
Just a small difference: one of them did it without a driver.
In a way Waymo is behind, they can’t scale fast enough. Their vehicles are far from optimal and expensive. When CyberCab comes around it will blow past Waymo with ease.
Don't fall for the hype.
If nothing changes, when CyberCab comes around Waymo will be screwed.
Waymo is partnering with existing car companies and those have a lot more production capacity than Tesla.
I had also hoped you Teslabros would chill with the Tesla hype when Model 3 was supposed to cost 35k but the cheapest model is about 45k, the cheapest Cybertruck was supposed to also be about 35k but instead it's about 100k, the Semi isn't doing much, the Roadster is still vaporware, FSD is nowhere near FSD...
Unless Waymo is working to design their own car for self driving they’re not going to be able to compete with a much cheaper self driving vehicle. Tesla will flood the market.
Also ‘partnering’ you think legacy auto is going to let a middle man like Waymo ‘use’ their cars once self driving taxi services are here. They will cut out Waymo middle man fast. People will be buying subscriptions to Honda and Ford taxi services, not Waymo.
I think you forgot to factor in 10 years of inflation into your prices. A factory for Semi is being built in Nevada as we speak. And FSD is incredibly good, it can drive today in far more places than a Waymo can. Personally it drives me 90% of the time, and the next update with auto parking support it’ll be up to 99%.
We'll see.
And they make the same number of cars each year that Tesla does.
Also deployment by city exists because each state will have different regulations.
If you need a clue, look at CyberTruck already out producing both Rivian and Lightning in less than a year.
I can’t tell you when it will happen, just that it will happen and when it does Waymo is screwed.
It’s so disappointing that this so-called tech community is so deranged because of their hatred of Musk so much that they’re not willing to look at the facts.
If it was any other company doing what Tesla is doing with their self driving, the comments here would be completely different.
Quite the opposite.
The facts are that Elon Musk is notorious for overselling and missing deadlines.
RoboTaxi has supposed to have come out how long ago? How much did Cybertruck get delayed? Roadster was supposed to be out 4 years ago, and there's now basically not a peep about it. Elon has taken who knows how much money from people for reservations, and 4 years later they've got nothing to show for it.
I would bet my life savings that we will not see RoboTaxi or CyberCab by the end of 2026.
Thankfully I got my bearings right and bought at $250 and still holding.
HN commenters are notorious for being wrong, almost every successful unicorn, if you go look at the early comments about them, HN top comment is usually dead wrong about them