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If you can't think of any specific examples on your own, then you're just not really trying very hard.

Try driving while not white in certain cities and see how free you feel. Try being a naturalized citizen or first gen to see how free you are in certain cities. Try being a female and looking to make your own health care decisions in certain states. Are these less vague allusions enough for you?

Freedom does not mean the opposite of being in jail. There's a lot of freedoms that are taken away from people purely based on race/sex whether you want to call it baiting or not. They still exist as problems.

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> Are these less vague allusions enough for you?

No, not at all. For example, plenty of white people feel unwelcome in areas — but neither group is prohibited and in both cases the experience is generally a) in their own head because nobody thinks about other people and/or b) cultural because there’s members of that community who don’t experience the same.

> Try being a female and looking to make your own health care decisions in certain states.

When your rights intersect another’s rights is always a matter of law — I’m not free to kill others outside legislated confines, either.

> There's a lot of freedoms that are taken away from people purely based on race/sex whether you want to call it baiting or not.

Then you should list some, rather than give vague and untrue grievance narratives.

Quoting what you heard off your telescreen is not convincing. For one, what “certain cities” are you even talking about? Are you referring to blacks being pulled over in black-majority crime-heavy areas? And I have never heard of stigmas against naturalized citizens. As for the vague allusion to abortion, I’m not allowed to kill a baby after it comes out, so why should it be legalized for the mother to? Especially when, if she doesn’t want a child, she can simply get an IUD, or simply take birth control and morning afters?

It boils down to who have the right and what the exceptions are.

Sometimes I found it funny seeing people feeding fish to octopus, calming they are sentiment, and supporting abortion.

Surely no sane person would think "Octopus > Baby > Fish". We are just inconsistent, and never admit we are that inconsistent.

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