South Korea declares martial law
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- Unknown U.S. Major in WWII
> We have to destroy democracy to save it
- Anti-populists in 2024
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
Unfortunately it's not easy to have an honest conversation with someone who opposes Trump about Jan 6, precisely because of the cases where people's family ratted them out, ongoing imprisonment without trial, etc.
> Your mother in law is brave to say that.
She thinks she's going to prison for voting against Trump, so I definitely agree with you there.
> Tucker Carlson is a coward for claiming, despite the video, that Jan 6 was unarmed.
I guess it depends on what you mean by armed. If people were planning on actually wresting control of the government then they would have brought their firearms. None of the protestors had firearms. Some had improvised weapons, like bats, so yeah that's my bad for not being clear. A select few were armed with bats. It's more about intent, right? If you're going to overthrow the government you're obviously not going to leave your real weapons at home and instead just bring baseball bats.
Also, events like Jan 6 are massive, complex and chaotic--and what is happening in one area can be totally unlike what is happening in a different area. Especially if there are organized groups trying to take advantage of the dissatisfaction in the crowd. Anyone showing videos and trying to characterize the event a single way is oversimplifying to fit their agenda.
Quoting John Emanuel Banuelos, “I’m the one in the video with the gun right here” indicating the moment he fired it into the air twice. Three trials proved guns without so clear a confession.
However I think this argument won't go anywhere. Clearly the difference between us is that you have a faith in authority that I simply lack. This discussion is really religious in nature and highlights the extent to which different groups of people have diverged in this country.
All I can say is, if you had a little more faith in the common people and a little less in authority figures you might have a more optimistic outlook on the upcoming century.
Meanwhile, faith has no place in this discussion. Either you believe in the rule of law, or you don't. If you don't believe the law applies to everyone equally, regardless of their social status and wealth, then you don't believe in equality for all: which is one of the founding principles of America. Trump supporters have repeatedly thumbed their nose at the idea of equality of all before law and I can therefore only conclude that they're anti-American. Why should I put faith in people who are anti-American?
The fact that a plurality of Americans appears to support the armed insurrection is a testament their willingness to hold Trump and his supporters above the rule of law. That mentality is extremely dangerous, but that's a different subject.