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Being in the uk, we were fortunate enough to choose rust as a main language with my co-founder about two years ago. We chose it after trying it out for some toy projects, and with no real experience with it (but both of us having heavy experience of C++, C#, Python, Ruby, and having tested many others).

We chose it because it felt "right", giving us c++ performance, productivity when writing, and a feeling of cleanliness from its type system I had not experienced since ... Ocaml.

But what we did not expect was how great it was from a talent perspective. We started hiring at a time where lots of rust developers were being laid off crypto, and the caliber of candidates is just ... amazing. Rust devs enjoy working with the language, and you get a type of developer who likes producing good code, and is usually quite passionate about coding.

So, I understand rust jobs are not easy to get by, but being on the other side of the table, it's a wonderful talent magnet for our team, allowing us to hire great developers.

Apologies for the off-topic but I am currently in a job search. I'd rate myself below the guys and girls you hired but I am very enthusiastic working with Rust. You hiring?

Again, sorry. :( But I am not getting any networking opportunities lately and couldn't resist replying to your message.

There's a hiring thread: you might find that useful. https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=whoishiring The next one's coming out in a few days.

Already did, thank you, I am simply trying my luck at a direct connection. Sanctioned HR processes are a meat grinder.

I skim it, but I typically only see maybe 2-3 roles in my domain. And these days, maybe 1 is in the US and the other 2-3 are in the EU. Such a rough market.

The crypto bit is an interesting filter. Wether the developers you found are true believers, grifters in on the scam, or just mercenaries for hire welding crates, they can't not have an opinion on cryptocurrency so my question to you is how much of that do they bring to work? Are there coffee chats about Ayn Rand and politics or do they steer clear of any of that.

It’s funny, I’ve been in crypto for a few years now and not once have I seen these grifters you talk about.

Also, you should maybe stop associating right wing crypto YouTubers with crypto developers. I would say most I know are left of central.

if you can't see the grifters, you're the mark

You’re a Java developer and you’re calling me the mark?

You have seen no grifters in crypto and you're calling me a java developer?

Never? The highest profile things in crypto are the scams, so you gotta be pretty laser-focused on your niche to not see them.

The highest profile things in crypto are Bitcoin ETFs which are institutionally run, so I guess you’re not wrong there

FTX seems pretty high profile to me.

I’m just a dev, and don’t hang around parties in the Bahamas. Like I said, I’ve never met a single person who’s a grifter.

Calling out FTX is like doing background checks on the company you work for’s VCs, their LPs and then their associates. Nothing to do with crypto on the ground

Let's assume a normal distribution of humanity exists in crypto, ie, broadly, over all of humanity, there are good people and bad people, so we would expect there to be good and bad people in crypto, as, while there are some self-selecting aspects to cryptocurrency enthusiasts or developers, there isn't a way to select for "only good people". This is true for every group of people. This is true of the police, true of the clergy, true of school teachers, true of software developers, politicians, etc.

So if you've never once seen them, either you're wilfully blinding yourself, or you haven't looked very hard. Now, whether or not grifters are overrepresented in the cryptocurrency community, the cryptocurrency developer community, or the right wing crypto YouTubers community, is an entirely separate question, which I made no claims about. Though I imagine North Korean crypto devs fall into a certain category.

But to claim they don't exist, because you've never seen one is questionable. I mean, that works for some things (eg unicorns and dragons), but I've also never seen eg the Vegas Sphere in person, but I'm fairly convinced it's a real thing that exists.

Nah, I don't claim they don't exist but I also claim that I've never met any - 99% of people I know in crypto are devs who chose to be there because of the ideals and challenges. From what I've seen in media, it's not the devs who are the scammers but the people up top - founders and sales people, which again I don't know many of that kind.

I think you have a very skewed view of what people interested in cryptocurrency are like.

Absolutely! It's a spectrum and people lie somewhere on it. I can't have a picture of the entirety of it (though I'd love to), but I can only go off my own experiences. I try and get as full a picture as I can, but it's unfortunately going to be skewed. yours is too. I'd love to hear which way your POV skews towards

> I think you have a very skewed view of what people interested in cryptocurrency are like.

Given that it's a heavenily gift for criminals (including those wishing to evade taxation on otherwise legit commercial activity) while leeching a good share of world's energy resources, I think he's excused.

I think it's a pretty accurate view of the average non-developer-crypto-enthusiast. I'm not sure how well it translates to the developer side.

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