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Here is the pricing page: https://account.servicestack.net/pricing. I had to dig a bit before getting it so just want to save everyone the trouble.

That's not the pricing page for AI Server as there is no pricing for AI Server, it's a Free OSS project.

Here is the license from the git repo: https://github.com/ServiceStack/ai-server/blob/main/license..... it is identical to the license for the other projects, and has a commercial clause.

Which is free for OSS projects https://servicestack.net/free/

Again it's not a commercially sold product, it's a free OSS project.

Sorry but you don't know the definition of a free software / OSS project. This project is clearly not OSS based on the common definition.

They invent their own stupid license that we can say is freemiumish with available sources: Open Source License The Open Source License Key can only be used in collaborative Open Source projects whose source code is released under a popular OSS License and made publicly available on github.com or gitlab.com

Either you didn't read the actual license or you don't know what you're talking about.

The actual license [1] as written in the first 2 paragraphs is released under AGPLv3 [2] which is an OSS license, more specifically a Copyleft [3] OSS license which also happens to be FSF's preferred OSS License. This alone qualifies it as OSS.

In addition, the license also grants a "FOSS License Exception" where if the software is used together with other OSS software that it can adopt that OSS License as long as the software remains OSS, i.e. so the other software can remain under its existing OSS license, instead of adopting the AGPL.

The Free License key does not take away any of the above rights to the source code nor does it invent a new License. It exists to give OSS projects Free License Keys to use the "commercial binary" software packages which can be used as long as the OSS software that uses it is publicly available.

The goal of these additional grants and exemptions is to make it as easy as possible to be used with OSS Software that remains OSS.

Users who don't want to publicly share their changes don't have to use the commercial binary packages, they can still create their own builds and maintain their hidden OSS code-base internally under the AGPL which does at least require them to make their fork available to their users who run their software.

With that said I don't see how software that's delivered in Docker appliances like this benefits anyone to adopt a non-copyleft OSS license. What OSS sofware a Docker container runs doesn't have any practical implications for anyone using it. All a non-copyleft license would do is encourage closed source derivatives, proprietary forks and pay-walled versions to the detriment of all other users and prevent other forks from being able to freely use and share their improvements.

[1] https://github.com/ServiceStack/ai-server/blob/main/license....

[2] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.html

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

To avoid future misinformed low effort comments, AI Server now unapologetically uses AGPL without additional FOSS grants.

Before AI Server was OSS and Free with additional FOSS grants, now it's just OSS and Free.

[1] https://github.com/ServiceStack/ai-server/commit/206d6ae6a12...

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