I don't know what "cloud" means. I don't really like Kubernetes, and I don't really like the AWS and GCP systems for doing everything. The fact that WGU offers a bachelors degree in Cloud Computing with focuses on AWS or Azure should be telling. [1]

Containers don't bother me that much on their own. I just feel like with k8s and its ilk I end up spending so much time futzing with weird YAML and trying to remember differences between stateful sets and services and fighting with stuff because I missed the thing that mounts a disk so my app will break in three hours.

[1] https://www.wgu.edu/online-it-degrees/cloud-computing-bachel...