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Comment by rcleveng | Hacker News Reader

Do they mean PAAS vs IAAS when they say "move to cloud"?

Mostly business guys don’t know the difference but we are running on local cloud provider and they think of it is not on Azure or AWS it is not in cloud - they understand that we run stuff on servers but they also don’t understand VPS is IaaS.

Developers want to use PaaS and also AWS or Azure so they can put it on their resume for the future.

> Developers want to use PaaS and also AWS or Azure so they can put it on their resume for the future.

I think this is a little disingenuous. Developers want to use them because they already know them. The services composing them are also often well documented by the provider.

I say all of that as someone trying to move a company away from aws, and over to our own hardware.

I want to use them because I'm not paying for it and managing your own hardware is a pain in the ass I'd rather avoid when I could just code instead. Which is not to say that using your own hardware isn't smart, but it is definitely miserable.

In my experience you swap managing your own hardware for managing intensely obtuse service configurations, pretty much 1:1. That might be preferable but I see a lot of folks approach it like the tradeoff doesn't exist.

But you don't "manage your own hardware" if you are renting VMs, which was the question here.

Also managing a cloud infrastructure is a lot more complex than running Debian and Ansible on a VM.

Sorry, I think I must have miscommunicated. I was communicating why I was arguing for using the cloud.

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