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Every Hands-Free Driving System Available in 2024

caranddriver.com

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Bit of a shame to see almost all manufacturers do subscriptions.

Hope it’s a fad.

I’m not sure where I land on this yet.

If the feature is 100% local to the car I’d like a one time purchase.

If the feature relies on other services, such as manufacturers mapping roads, then I can support some subscription for ongoing maintenance.

I get it, the alternative is something akin to a pyramid scheme - updates have to be funded by future sales.

That works for me if I’m already a customer - but the company has to keep selling to keep funding their services.

However taken to the extreme it risks the company implementing some kind of planned obsolescence to provide that funding. And it doesn’t incentivize efficiency (making the service simply cost less to provide over time) any better than a subscription model. Not sure which is less evil in the long term.

Maybe by wanting no subscription I’m just being selfish.

Also openpilot is not mentioned: https://github.com/commaai/openpilot

Weird how Car and Driver omitted the open source system.

The anti Tesla rhetoric of car & driver has turned me off this publication. They are not being intellectually honest. Anyone who has driven these cars knows that “hands free”, “self driving”, or whatever you want to call it is not able to compete with Tesla. Regardless of what you think of Elon this is dishonest. What a shame.

That’s simply not true. There are three spots on my way to work that both autopilot and fsd freak out and start braking for no reason. Ford blue cruise handles the spots without issue.

Maybe Tesla is ahead in Silicon Valley, they aren’t anywhere else in my experience. On paper does FSD “do more”? Sure, but that’s because other manufacturers aren’t willing to risk killing their customers and hoping their usage policy will protect them.

I thought their description of Tesla was also strange.

So are they claiming that all the other (at least SAE 2) systems don’t ask you to wiggle the steering or pay attention every 30 seconds?

Very strange mincing of words and doesn’t smell right to me.

> Regardless of what you think of Elon this is dishonest

It is Elon that is dishonest. He has been selling "Full Self Driving" for how many years now?

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