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Why is it limited to women in general? It affects everyone.

And I wonder in what cases it is an issue for those, because we have cameras everywhere and people are fine with it.

> Camera traps and drones deployed by government authorities to monitor a forest in India are infringing on the privacy and rights of local women.

Why women specifically? Would it not affect me?!

> The women, who previously found sanctuary in the forest away from their male-dominated villages, told Simlai they feel watched and inhibited by camera traps, so talk and sing much more quietly.

This does not explain it. Men and women both do this. My Indian friend just went to visit a "retreat place" or whatever it is called for a week, there are both men an women.

I would not want to be recorded in the forest either, nor anywhere else, but it is a "fact of life" I cannot do against. :|

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> Why is it limited to women in general? It affects everyone

John, you should ask this to men, why do men get obsessed over women and stalk them much more often?

> Why women specifically? Would it not affect me?!

do you have a history of being stalked by women? I don’t believe

I actually do have a history of being stalked by women, e.g. my ex, a female, twice my age and "only" another female.

So... in my entire life I have been stalked by women only, 2 women in total (as far I can recall).

The whole thing is not limited to stalking anyways.

It's certainly not limited to women, in theory, but I don't think you understand rural village life. For women who aren't free to voice opinions in the home, who don't have privacy, who might be abused or treated like servants, there are few spaces to escape and freely share information. If you've never seen this, they do work very hard to keep it a secret, but mostly it's because they don't have technology.

Presumably, women are not putting up the spy cameras, weren't asked their opinions beforehand, weren't informed whether audio, video, or both were being captured, and don't have access to the footage to verify. If your company started putting trail cams in the break rooms or your neighbor installed one pointing at your back porch, you probably wouldn't think "this is fair for everyone, I trust they won't check it without telling me unless there's a good reason or share this with anyone I wouldn't want them to, like my bosses or my abusive spouse".

I know about how females are being treated in e.g. Iraq. Awful.

The article do explains the cause of why women in this specific situation are more likely observed than men:

forest rangers in the national park deliberately fly drones over local women to frighten them out of the forest, and stop them collecting natural resources despite it being their legal right to do so.

later on it says:

The women living near India’s Corbett Tiger Reserve use the forest daily in ways that are central to their lives: from gathering firewood and herbs to sharing life’s difficulties through traditional songs.

For unspecified reasons, women are responsible for collecting those natural resources. If I put down a guess, that the wood is used for cooking and cleaning (with the men doing the typical gender role activities that India apply towards men).

We could create a similar article saying that men are more affected by road cameras than women, since men are more likely than women to be driving (especially truck drivers).

Sure, it effects everyone’s privacy but women are 99.99% more likely to be raped than men so perhaps they have a bit more to worry about.

So just under 100% more likely, i.e. twice as likely? That's an underestimate. Only 9% of rape victims are men.

https://www.humboldt.edu/supporting-survivors/educational-re...

Was any women here raped by the drone operators?

Until there are proofs of this happening, we should refrain to assume by default that the workers from the park, or the Cambridge scientists participating in the project, are rapists that hate women

Nothing in the article proofs that this is a case of bad men stalking women for sexual purposes. This accusations in any western country would be followed by a trial by damages against the right to honour.

Do we know if the drones were chasing off women from areas where tigers had been videotaped recently, for example?

I didn't say that any women were raped. I said they had more to worry about. The study itself is pretty clear about what is happening.

generally speaking women are predated on by men more than men are by women.

Generally speaking women are not killed and eaten by men, so generally speaking this is just an opinion.

"Predated" can mean too much things. Both, women and men are perfectly capable to destroy other's lives in many ways.

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