> get serious about anti-cell phone technology for the driver’s seat.
How does this work?
How does this work?
(Very confusing the first time, when you don't realize that's what the issue is.)
I'd imagine something similar is at least possible.
If you've ever used an Apple AirTag, they're even better for this; my phone could easily tell me which seat an AirTag is sitting in.
I don’t want my car to be an arm of the nanny state. I don’t want insurance companies spying on my drives or owning my driver monitoring data. But, there could be a simple “place the connected device on this pad and strap it in while you drive” type system, that actually attempts to enforce the policy. Does it get hard once multiple people/devices get in the car? Sure. Could individual drivers just bring a second device along to defeat it? Yes. But for the average solo driver that doesn’t pre mediate their own misbehavior, it could reduce distraction without trampling on privacy or significantly added nuisance.
Why do I have to comply? Is my phone not allowed to be used while in motion or something? Or is this required just to access the infotainment system (hello, car-only phone!)?
If you're putting some kind of radio in my vehicle that tells my (and every passenger's phone) to shut off, I'm going to abuse this signal and broadcast it far more widely than any car would. And then just remove, disable, or block the radio.
> Does it get hard once multiple people/devices get in the car?
It doesn't just become difficult, it becomes logically impossible. Current, common radio technology isn't good enough to isolate the driver's seat.
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Also: good luck getting any technical chain of trust to work and stay safe/secret between numerous phone and automobile manufacturers. Nobody has been able to achieve this with multi-manufacturer DRM so far - DVD, Bluray, etc. Apple is the exception with regards to key material security: auto manufacturers stand no chance, Xiaomi doesn't care, and my Google Pixel is rooted.
Before phones there were DVD playing head units in cars: parking and GPS bypasses have existed for these for at least 20 years.
Look man, you don’t know what you’re talking about. UWB can easily position a device in a vehicle. BT direction finding is also quite promising.
But I’m not suggesting any advanced locating, let alone a jammer (lol). I’m literally just suggesting an NFC pad with a phone “seat belt” for the primary device connected to the infotainment. Car makes a beeping noise until you rest the phone in the safe spot. That’s it. Nothing any more extreme than existing seat belt and speed limit warnings (which save lives despite their nuisance).
t. Actual automotive engineer for a major OEM that works on infotainment & mobile software, Bluetooth, UWB, & future RF
Why would I pair it?
Do you want a pat on the back for defeating the imagined safety mechanism? You can also buy seat belt plugs to turn the seat belt chime off. Very few people end up doing this in practice (because it’s stupid).
What is your specific aversion to your car expecting you to separate control of your phone while driving alone? Assume you have HFP, A2DP, and/or CarPlay/Android Auto with voice control. Why do you need physical control of your phone while your car is in gear/moving? You don’t.
Mandate driver attention monitoring, and require that prolonged inattention (i.e. N seconds continuous, or N seconds of the past 3 minutes) results in escalating consequences, e.g. a warning chime, followed by activation of the hazard lights, followed by cutting the throttle and engaging lane keeping assist if available, and with several minutes continuous inattention, automatically call emergency services if possible.
Ideally, phone manufacturers and car makers could work together so that the driver inattention chime automatically locks the phone and tells the driver to pay attention (or tells the passenger to tell the driver to pay attention).
Why not ban all old phones and cars too, to really ensure enforcement of this scheme?