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Kippt (YC S12) adds social lists and discovery features

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I'm currently using Kippt to keep track of awesome plugins and libraries that I find on my travels around the web (eg. cool javascript libraries).

Adding social lists means that I can now share these with my colleagues/friends. Great addition.

I'm not using this anymore, for several reasons:

I didn't get warm and fuzzy at the site by registering and spending some time.

I'm not a fan anymore of site being developed with all their intended features (read, as they go along experimenting) while we use (depend) them for daily chores. I'd rather site display all its cards right upfront.

The bookmarking site model is following the same trend as it existed for many years, i.e, there is nothing innovative in this area.

We understand that many things have been broken in the bookmarking model in the past. That's why we try to keep Kippt as simple as possible. Feel free to send me an email any time (jori@kippt.com), we would love to hear what didn't work for you so that we can improve things in the future.

I like Kippt but wish it had a tagging mechanism. The only way to simulate tags is to put the link in multiple lists - which can be a pain. The Chrome extension only allows the link to be added to one list, and so I was often adding a link with the extension, only to then navigate to the site to add it to other lists. I ended up just giving up and using the search feature in Chrome bookmarks.

Tagging is something we're adding soon but we're doing it a bit differently: You can use hashtags in notes which will work as filter for search.

Ah, didn't realize the notes are searchable. Very nice.

ha, that's a good idea. Small amount of lists for simplified browsing experience, but indexed hashtags for blazingly fast search. Good thinking, guys.

I just signed up and will give it a spin. I was going to install the Chrome Extension but the prompt says:

Add Kiptt?

It can:

- Access your data on all web sites.

- Access your tabs and browsing activity.

Why would the extension need all that above data if it's just bookmarking the page into Kippt?

> Why would the extension need all that above data if it's just bookmarking the page into Kippt?

It doesn't just bookmark the page. C'mon, spend a minute and actually look at what features it provides. It's on the actual Chrome plugin page.

It's obvious what it needs access to the page's content and the tabs that contain that data.

Next time, please do a little bit of reading, a tad bit of research. Don't just click next next next.

Uhmm...I'm going to ignore your snarkiness and condescension and just present the below data from Google's Support page for Chrome plugins:

" Your data on all websites

This item can read every page that you visit -- your bank, your web email, your Facebook page, and so on. Often, this kind of item needs to see all pages so that it can perform a limited task such as looking for RSS feeds that you might want to subscribe to.

Caution: Besides seeing all your pages, this item could use your credentials (cookies) to request or modify your data from websites."

I think it is not unreasonable to take pause when an extension asks for such permissions.

> Often, this kind of item needs to see all pages so that it can perform a limited task such as looking for RSS feeds that you might want to subscribe to.

This is Google's issue. They provide a limited set of permissions (you want access to data about the site, you need to give permissions to read the site).

Maybe you could answer this: how else is the plug supposed to get the title of the page you are looking at without having access to the contents of the page? The title, after all, is part of that content.

> I think it is not unreasonable to take pause when an extension asks for such permissions.

It's not. It is, however, unreasonable to unfairly and dishonestly characterize a plugin without doing any research yourself.

We need "tabs" and "contextMenus" from Chrome to access the current tab (get tab url, title and highlighted text) and add options to browser context menu. It's unfortunate that Chrome doesn't allow more limited API access and it's understandable that these might sound excessive.

Kippt's extension is open sourced and available at https://github.com/kippt/kippt-chrome so you can make sure that there isn't anything fishy going on (I ensure you, there's not). Installed Chrome extensions can also be taken a part with just few clicks.

Awesome tool. I would be nice to add just notes, without links at all. It would make it easier to keep/share lists of code snippets, useful phone numbers, organizations, people, addresses etc. EDITED

it sucks when you see startups doing what you've been building solo for some time, but not yet launched... :/

This isn't a zero-sum game; just launch it :)

yes, I'll do that. I'm learning a lot along the way (I'm not a programmer, just learned some things from Udacity and Codecademy), so it's not wasted time :)

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