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Ukraine fires UK-supplied Storm Shadow missiles at Russia for first time

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What's interesting about the Trump election is that it in effect gives Biden a license to give Ukraine one last, (modest) push like this.

Putin will huff and puff, but it's not like he's going to follow through on any of it when he knows his accomplice will be in the White House in just a couple of months.

After all -- why would never jeopardize the (potential) Hail Mary pass that just got thrown his way?

> What's interesting about the Trump election is that it in effect gives Biden a license to give Ukraine one last, (modest) push like this.

I ask myself if it is a tactical game from democrats to make the life from Trump's administration as harder as possible with the expectation to come back in 2028.. In another hand it would be too evil to put the internal politics game above everything..

I think it's about Ukraine, simply -- not Trump.

The West doesn't deserve the allies it has in Ukraine.

what do you mean? Which allies and who is the West ?

The West is a group of countries characterized by strong institutions and rule of law so Usa, Canada, europe, Japan, a Korea, Australia (it's not in fact a geographical term)

What I meant is that Ukraine is putting up a fight against an aggressor is doing unbelievably, and the west while helping isn't helping nearly as much as it should.

> What I meant is that Ukraine is putting up a fight against an aggressor is doing unbelievably, and the west while helping isn't helping nearly as much as it should.

I hear a lot this:

- Either we should invest our full energy in coming to peace, whatever it costs, because the main goal is to save lives and keep the peace

- Or we go and support Ukraine with NATO and forces the War to an end

What we do today is none of both, like "almost 0 diplomacy" and giving weapons and support in the bare minimum, not committing to any position, is pretty bad to the civilians and soldiers in Ukraine.

Something that I never expected to hear and see: In Germany the Green Chanceler candidate, Robert Habeck, trying to score in the upcoming election, saying that he would deliver Taurus to Ukraine: https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2024-11/ukraine-krieg-ro...

>Something that I never expected to hear and see

Then you never understood what the German Greens were and are.

what they were is clear. What they are and what they are aiming to be is a great question.

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