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Your last point is really a sore point of mine nowadays, it appears I can only get aquariums instead of a proper PC tower like in the good old days.

For anyone not feeling like building a custom PC tower around my region, it is either a proper case with sucky hardware like i5 CPUs, or proper hardware configuration, packaged in rainbows from all forms and colours.

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> it appears I can only get aquariums instead of a proper PC tower like in the good old days.

https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/define/define-...

That case is okay, but a solid front that limits airflow is still a bit tilted a bit away from proper in my mind.

I like this case for the huge fan and having a bunch of drive bays: https://www.phanteks.store/collections/enthoo-series/product...

They also make several alternative options, such as https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/meshify/meshif... or https://www.fractal-design.com/products/cases/torrent/torren... for high airflow applications. Build quality of these is excellent, and they’re still reasonably unobtrusive solid black towers.

I have a Meshify 2 for my main desktop with a 5800X and a 3090 for airflow, and a Define 7 for my home server with 10x HDDs, for quietness’s sake. The frustrating part now is opaque sided cases are lower volume parts, and usually more expensive as a result :/

Some retailers on my European corners, nice.

Plain black box cases are not exactly rare, pretty much all major manufacturers produce them in masses

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/case/#sort=-rating&f=2&B=1...

You missed the part of not wanting to build a custom PC, and getting a computer in a local vendor.

That seems like a problem with your local vendors.

The Asus ap201 has a configuration thats all mesh rather than acrylic. It gets kinda tight though with external drives.

Looks indeed nice, thing is, getting a local vendor that actually has it with a good configuration.

What do you mean by proper? Is it a synonym for good?

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