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Comment by lawdawg | Hacker News Reader

Globally, WP isn't large enough yet to register on Statcounters global metrics, but:

* In NA, 1.0% to 0.97% drop from May to June: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-na-monthly-201106-20120...

* In Europe, 1.23% to 1.36% rise from May to June: http://gs.statcounter.com/#mobile_os-eu-monthly-201106-20120...

Stats from Netmarketstats shows a much larger global decline, so I think we can conclude that WP is barely growing it's overall marketshare. I expect the WP8 announcement (rather, the WP7.8 announcement) will lead to reduced sales until WP8 is released (hopefully) later this year.

As for Android/iOS fanboy FUD, what exactly would you be referring to?

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Statcounter is a horse shit merchant. It's a bad choice for measuring market share statistics for anything. Let's take a look at this specific case and why it's wrong:

1. A lot of WP devices announce themselves as IE desktop rather than mobile.

2. People in the EU still primarily use them for messaging, email only. I rarely see people "on the web" on their mobile devices.

3. Apps requests do not necessarily count in the statistics and the majority of the time people spend is in apps (WP has native FB, ebay, Twitter apps etc). WP has decent native apps for pretty much everything.

The only thing that matters statistically are sales and retention which are numbers that are not uniformly available for any platform.

Re: fanboy FUD is the inevitable "Windows Phone sucks" mantra from people who have never even set eyes on a device.

So your basis for "marketing share growing" is a Comscore report based on a survey in the United States? The only way you would know how many WP are sold is you work on certain parts of WP at Microsoft. I know someone who does, and, although no specific numbers were given, he gives off the impression that WP growth has not been good, and that the Lumia launch was, to put it nicely, disappointing.

And the inevitable "<insert mobile platform here> sucks" mantra comes from fanboys from every platform, including WP. Care to explain why that FUD hasn't influenced the growth of iOS and Android?

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