Biden Allows Ukraine to Strike Russia with Long-Range U.S. Missiles
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Just politically, It isn't parity to ten thousand soldiers and 60% of their shells being North Korean. North Korea is at war in Europe, and this is not a commensurate response.
Lifting the restrictions now after Russia's logistics have already retreated also took the bite out of their potential. It should have been a surprise, overnight, when the Russian airforce was still relatively concentrated and unconcerned.
Better than nothing; I hope it changes something, for a time at least.
†: everybody == a lot of people, just to be clear
That's not the goal.
It's for security: It's less risky now to fight Russia then later, after they've conquered more people and territory, and have political momentum.
It's for security again: If Russia wins, it greatly damages the international order which has prevented wide-scale war for generations. Remember the world before 1945.
It's for people: The lives, freedom, rights, and prosperity of tens of millions of people are at stake.
This is a fair and logical point.
> It's for security again: If Russia wins, it greatly damages the international order which has prevented wide-scale war for generations. Remember the world before 1945.
That very international order hinges on the US being the sole dominator of the entire world. Sooner or later that sort of international order has to crack.
> The lives, freedom, rights, and prosperity of tens of millions of people are at stake.
Pax Americana is paid for (in blood, natural resources, political sovereignty and the fate of every single future generation) by hundreds of millions of people, though outside of the "western, civilized" world. You still consider it some righteous cause? Sounds kind of selfish.
> Pax Americana is paid for (in blood, natural resources, political sovereignty and the fate of every single future generation) by hundreds of millions of people ...
I didn't say anything about righteousness, but about the human beings directly affected by Russia's invasion.
America doesn't negotiate with terrorism, only strategic arms reduction. Russia cannot desire for nuclear war because it cannot be used as a bartering tool; ICBMs are merely an expensive pen for signing their own death warrant.
I think that Russia (Putin) thought that ukraine would collapse within days and it would be a walkover.
But it wasn’t and Zelensky bound his people together to resist the Russian army. The Russian army showed its capabilities and more surprisingly it’s huge limitations.
The oligarchy in Russia may well determine that getting rid of Putin might be less risky than letting him escalate the situation, especially if he starts talking about using even battlefield nukes.
IMO the best way to prevent a nuclear war with Russia would be supplying all its neighbours with big pile of nuclear weapons. Then they would have nowhere to invade without risking their own destruction.
Finland has been peacefully coexisting with USSR and Russia for almost 80 years after the WW2.
>would be supplying all its neighbours with big pile of nuclear weapons
Russia could do that too. Starting with Cuba, for example. Think of every country the US ever invaded or bombed having nukes and the means to deliver them to the US.
> Russia could do that too. Starting with Cuba, for example.
Or arming Mexican cartels. The Chinese mafia (wink wink) is already doing money laundering for them in US/EU.
It would hurt Mexicans and just plain evil.
Nuclear war is not something to be lightly risked
Then Putin invaded Ukraine, but called it a special military operation.
Now our news tries to keep us updated about which territory is controlled by Russia or Ukraine, what the rough estimated casualties are, and so on.
Which part do you think they're misinforming us about?
Only russian bots and people with mental development problems.
I think it is far more likely that Russia is waiting for a change of leadership in America that is friendly to their cause. In the meantime they are digging fortifications and stocking up for a future offensive to retake Kursk and expand their holdings in Ukraine when they lose access to American munitions.
But now the US is about to have a President who is far, far more favorable to Putin. Would Putin blow up the US just before it's going to cease support for Ukraine entirely?
This is a calculated risk. Everything about this war has been a calculated risk (and indeed, any war). There is a strong argument to be made that nuclear war was never really going to happen, and that we should have allowed Ukraine to attack Russia more directly all along. The present administration rejected that, but now that calculation has changed.
Is it correct? Who the heck knows.
what can be done by that military in that amount of time?
But this gives them a better chance of holding what they have and destroying the Russian logistics and infrastructure.
Hopefully the European powers and the UK will lift any restrictions that they have imposed and provide additional supplies.
Personally I think for the sake of survival they should consider giving up on the land they've lost but join NATO and have our nukes stationed there for their protection from further attacks.
They don't care. It's not their lives or their family or their land
Absolutely false - Russia has about 1.7 million, other countries some 6 million.
Whatever source you got that verbal snippet from is messing with your head.
Russia #1
Germany #2
Poland #3
I dont know if you guys are just trolling, genuinely braindead retards or official astroturfers from the 3 letter soups
The vastly bigger point is -- there's plainly no logic to the the primary implication you are attempting to posit here. Which, with only light paraphrasing, boils down to this:
"Russia hosts a large population of refugees from Ukraine; these of course being largely from the Russian-speaking population, which the Russian regime considers to be its own people. From this fact, therefore, Russian regime can't possibly be in the business of committing ethnic cleansing or other genocidal actions against the actual Ukrainian-speaking population of Ukraine."I left reddit due to all the official shillings and now its the same garbage propaganda from braindead retards like you
The same garbage propaganda from braindead retards like you
You're in explicit violation of site guidelines. Recommend you stop.
The analysis I’ve seen indicates that these weapons will not fundamentally alter the course of the war. Kursk was a gamble to improve Ukraine’s negotiating position, which has gotten consistently worse.
The defenses in the north were affected by incompetence or corruption, so the push north came across a little like shoring up their positions to need fewer men in the long run.
In any case, it is a much weaker dog than you, and the dog has fewer functioning nuclear weapons and delivery systems. Ultimately the dog won't bite with nuclear weapons because it knows you bite harder and it will lose.
Come to think of it, such an aggressive dog which repeatedly barks and attacks its own neighbors unprovoked is a threat to the community and should be put down.