It’s lucrative if your bar is 6 figures.
No engineer that makes 7 figures calls themselves a ruby developer with the exception of DHH.
No engineer that makes 7 figures calls themselves a ruby developer with the exception of DHH.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
Assuming that high earners are offsetting that to the higher end, most people aren't making 6 figures, and the bar isn't which language they're programming in.
Junior salaries go down much lower than $100k.
Congratulations, your experience is limited. The BLS stats represent the actual US salary data, not just your limited experience. If you want to make a claim about salaries in the US then look at data across the US and not just whatever is true within your limited bubble.
> And forgive me if forwarding the BLS statistics to candidates doesn't get them to accept offers
Did I ever even suggest such a thing?
> Did I ever even suggest such a thing?
My point is that the BLS doesn't set market rates or report on them.
$132,270
This means half of all full time employed devs are higher, and half are lower. The mean is more skewed by higher earners but is similar:
$138,110
It also varies quite widely by geographic location, from a mean high of $173,780 in California to only $125,890 in Texas, from $199,800 in San Jose to $132,500 in Austin to $98,960 in rural Kansas (where I have actually developed software before!)
The short of it is, the vast majority of software developers do not make the top salaries. Even L6 is rare within the top tier of tech. There is a lot of delusion in this field around pay, so it's important to be well informed. As a field we are still very well paid compared to most other jobs especially considering our safe working conditions and lack of needed credentials and education. Compared to most of the work on this planet, it's still a goldmine.
The key here is not to categorize as a “language developer”.
Consistent total compensation offers of $1mil+ is probably reserved for roles above these, sometimes called Principal or Distinguished. I would say the rate of having one of these in an org are like 1 for ~150 engineers.
How many companies are out there paying $1,000,000/year for devs?
How many devs who can command that kind salary are going to put up with bullshit coding challenges?
Google alone has 4000 directors all making a million at minimum.
I have only worked at FAANG across my nearly decade long career. So, it’s a biased but very large sample.
That's not unheard of, but it's certainly rare. $1 million+ is not a "typical salary", even at Google.