Maybe it's time for the pendulum to swing in the other direction in terms of regulation and all the things you mention, but I think this is why it sucks that all we have is a pendulum, and can't get people to talk like adults.

My gut has been that during the next administration there's going to be a fire sale on regulation, and we're in for some type of major bubble popping due to de-regulation ala the savings and loan crisis or 2008, not to mention probably numerous health crises in our future from less trust in vaccines and less regulation by the FDA.

But like, one side is rarely right about everything, so the fact that we have to choose between two extremes sucks.

Also, and I’m not saying Ben and Marc are wrong here, but I would have a healthy dose of skepticism towards anyone who says “the really core problem with our world is that we’re not doing this thing that would benefit me personally”.

Maybe we need more startup innovation, or maybe that’s just the thing the person heavily invested in startup innovation thinks.