usetrmnl.com
we launched a KS over the summer, and now ship devices same-day.
open source firmware, no subscriptions, no ads, 50+ native plugins already, and a simple API to build your own for private or public use.
happy to answer any questions!
Ryan
A few questions:
1. Is the dev edition hardware different?
2. If not, it possible to upgrade to a dev edition later, ie. Is it just a config thing on the server end?
3. If I have multiple trmnls how do I manage them? Is it possible? Do I need multiple accounts? Do they show the same stuff etc? Is "dev edition" for my account or per-device?
4. Using multiple apps - is it a split screen display, or do it cycle through the apps every x seconds? Is there a button to advance to the next one?
5. What's the resolution in real terms? Ie. Can I get a full month calendar to show and still be able to read entries? How many lines of Todo-list items can I have? What happens to over-flowed items?
6. how does it get updates? does it connect to my phone via Bluetooth or to my WiFi? Can it store multiple WiFi networks, for if I want to take it places?
1/2. hardware is the same, just a permissions switch. you can upgrade any time in-app.
3. one account can manage them all, there is a device switcher in top corner that makes it easy to jump between playlists, content orderings, preferences etc. you can also “mirror” a device like child<>parent but they are independent by default. dev edition currently device specific but if you say “hey not cool” we can bump both your devices on the same account. ;)
4. yes and yes and yes. you can choose from several layouts (full screen, split, 3-way split etc) and you configure refresh intervals per device, per plugin, per time of day. so maybe you want calendar only from 8-9a, or reddit / hn only in the evening. there is a skip btn on the device which can also be double-clicked to do other stuff (go backwards, email me this, etc).
5. res is 800x480. not amazing but we make it work. built our own design system with special fonts. preview: https://usetrmnl.com/framework. yes we have calendar in Month view and it looks fine IMO. you can fit in /read a lot of text. for overflow we have some JS magic that auto truncates and you can control these params as well. see “Overflow” section in Framework docs above.
6. connects via wifi, yes supports multiple SSID, and receives OTA updates automatically (which you can disable). firmware is open source as well.
hope to see you on the inside!
Ryan
Trml honestly looks like a straight rip-off, but it’s well made and has a battery. So - fair game.
I also have a kickstarter for a display that’s bigger:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/invisible-computers/e-p...
But if you’ve never heard of me, that means we should definitely collaborate because your architecture and many other choices is a 1:1 match of mine :)
Is it? What’s the same about these two devices beyond “wall-mounted e-ink dashboard”? Every hacker who has ever used a dashboard app and an e-reader has thought of that.
I’m European and would prefer supporting a European company, but I remember seeing your product a while back and dismissing it (and completely forgetting about it until that other poster mentioned it) while this one interested me enough to do to the checkout and almost buy.
Specifically, yours has a lacklustre presentation (why are images of the iOS interface round and cutting information?) and seems extremely limited (anything beyond a Google calendar requires a hacky solution with a third-party service). This one lets you develop directly for it and the website gives a clear overview of their values and use cases.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, but also wanted to let you know your interaction in this thread so far makes it look like you do hold a grudge, despite your words.
our intent is to help you stay informed on stuff without needing a bunch of open browser tabs, push notifications, etc.
ps. the mobile navigation bugs sometimes (with the animation loading randomly it seems) so I couldn’t find the plugin docs at first, and there is no navigation back to the main page from the plugin directory it seems. hope that helps.