These discussions--largely theoretical--have centered around three problems:
1. Where?
2. The route to funding/profitability; and
3. Visa/residency issues.
(3) of course depends on (1) and the nationalities and residencies of the respective founders. As a UK citizen I luckily have the right to reside anywhere in the EU. For the US unfortunately I need a visa but Australians have access to the E3 visa, which has a lower bar to issuance than even the H1B (there is no need for the employer to "prove" they can't find someone local, which is essentially a legal circus) but there are issues in using work visas to found companies.
There are I believe many foreign engineers in the US in the same boat as me.
I've looked into the possibility of either situating in Canada or at least using it as a stepping stone. It could have a lot going for it, for example:
- Vancouver is relatively speaking close to Seattle and the Bay area;
- No health insurance problems (comparatively);
- Relatively low cost (compared to, say, San Francisco);
- English-speaking;
- Cultural similarities.
And here's where Canada really has an opportunity to attract fledgling companies: software patents. If Canada were to invalidate software patents then they'd essentially be providing a safe haven for small companies until they're large enough to defend themselves. Of course, trolls can still go after US operations (if, say, you hosted in the US) but you would be at least partially protected.
Sadly, the Canadian government seems to be just an inept when it comes to IP issues as other Western governments (and, worse, it seems to take its lead from the US).
But if you go look at the Canadian immigration sites you find out that:
- getting residency is relatively difficult; and
- engineers aren't even on the list of high-demand occupations (whereas restaurant managers are, for example).
Now Canadians could be concerned that if such a program existed people would use it until they could get to the US and I suspect that would happen a lot but I think that's fine because a certain percentage would stay. Some would employ Canadians, at least for a time. Some of those would go when the startup move. Some wouldn't.
That's how ecosystems form. It's not an exercise in being better than say Silicon Valley. Like so much else in life, it's simply an exercise in persistence and ultimately a numbers game.
Beyond those options I'm not sure where next someone in my shoes might otherwise go. London and Germany (I lived in Cologne for a time and loved it) are obvious choices.
In a bootstrapping scenario or even at a seed-funding level it would be ideal to keep costs low. Costs in the Bay Area for talent and even housing, etc are bordering nightmarish and I say this as someone who lives in Manhattan. Finding and retaining talent in SF/SV must be torture for new companies.
Personally I prefer New York but hey YMMV.
Anyway, back to Canada, it seems to have the same problem Australia does in a way: it's too focused in ripping stuff out of the ground and selling it than it is on tech. Oh well, their loss.