Fundamental - octave - fifth - octave - third - fifth - flat 7
Fundamental - octave - fifth - octave - third - fifth - flat 7
The minor 7 is not in the harmonic series. It’s just not there. This is not a nitpick or a quibble—the minor 7 is just a completely different interval, separate from the just intonation 7:4 interval. To my ears, it is like saying that red and yellow are the same color.
What about augmented or diminished chords? How do they fit into this theory? What about, say, the 9? Why do we put a 9 in a chord, and not a 2? Why do we like the b9? Why do we use a #11?
There’s a million little historical and cultural factors going on here. You can come up with a sort of apologia to explain why thirds make sense, but this doesn’t mean that thirds are in any sense fundamental in some physical or physiological sense.
You can discount the fundamentalness of thirds, but it’s there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrmnaiyS5EE
This thread reminded me of the "Conclusions" slide.
As you get further along the series you're moving from simple to complex ratios. Thirds are next in line after 4ths/5ths and they have a function that solves some obvious harmonic problems.
A lot of this has echoes in the historical development of music and the commonalities between harmony in different parts of the world. There's a reason cultures independently discover similar constructs i.e. the pentatonic scale
It’s not a leap to go from the fifth (as an interval, two notes) to the major triad, three notes. However, if you consider major triads, you’re just dipping your toe in the water as far as chords are considered.
The question is not, “Why does the major third above the root appear in chords?” but rather “Why do we build chords out of stacked thirds, which can be minor, major, or even diminished or augmented?” At this point, the part about the major third appearing in the harmonic series lacks explicatory power.
Consider, for example, that a chord “built out of thirds” can contain a major or minor seventh, a minor second, or an augmented fourth. Just as examples.
I really don't think it does. Fifths (and their inverted form fourths) are the most consonant interval (ignoring octaves as the trivial case).
Most cultures develop musical processes that involve fifths very early on in their history.
Where do you go from fifths if you want to add another voice? If you have three notes and you want the most consonant result - you put a note that forms a third between the root and the fifth.
Given a few basic assumptions ("prefer simpler integer ratios") there's no better way to play 3 non-octave notes together.
Sure, if you look at major triads only, and ignore extended harmony, it works fine.
But it’s also not that useful if you look only at triads, because there just aren’t that many triads.
According to modern harmonic rules those are valid. For a long time, these were not harmonies you'd hear in music. Really only since counterpoint fell out of style, since it forbids augmented intervals.