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Once upon a time, Abraham Lincoln said "the man before the dollar":

> The democracy of to-day hold the liberty of one man to be absolutely nothing, when in conflict with another man's right of property. Republicans, on the contrary, are for both the man and the dollar; but in cases of conflict, the man before the dollar.

https://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lincoln/speeches/pierce...

(which also goes to show just how labile platforms can be under a no-more-than-2-party regime)

> the CEOs of major corporations make almost 300 times more than their average employees while weekly wages remain stagnant and 60 percent of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.

I added the emphasis.

Is Bernie decently competent with math and/or economics? Does he understand that the latter doesn't follow from the former? I'm not American so I don't follow this that closely. Am genuinely curious though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders#Early_career

> Sanders studied at Brooklyn College for a year in 1959–1960 before transferring to the University of Chicago and graduating with a Bachelor of Arts degree in political science in 1964. In later interviews, Sanders described himself as a mediocre college student because the classroom was "boring and irrelevant" and said he viewed community activism as more important to his education.

https://archive.is/utv0x#selection-1727.0-1727.54

Haven't they already chosen?

They have for sure, but there will be more elections in the coming years, I hope.

Old folks are a lost cause, their mental models are rigid. 1.8M voters over the age of 55 die every year, ~5k per day. The problem is that Dems have lost Latinos due to culture and machismo and Gen Z men because they’re in a macro that inherently will be unkind to them and there is no way to fix on a 4 year election cycle (it’ll take at least a decade to improve housing costs with more units, improve economic security with unions and organizing to drag wages up, etc). Young women will remain liberal, young men will remain angry, what happens to Latinos will be a function of how effective the next admin’s deportation and denaturalization efforts are.

There is very little good attempting to court the working class if they’ll vote their feelings over reality, unless you’re going to outright lie to them as has happened in this case. Defend and protect female reproductive rights where they still exist (so women aren’t imprisoned in unwanted parenthood for decades due to this short term political agenda), as well as vulnerable populations to the best ability, and stand back from the dumpster fire while it burns out. The next four years is harm reduction.

One sort of interesting thing about old folks is the generations are changing from silent/boomer to boomer/genx. Will be interesting to see if old=conservative or that actually we’ve just been dealing with 2 generations that were fundamentally conservative because of circumstance. I wonder if in fact the stagnation in Democrat leadership is from 80’s /90’s liberals becoming small c conservative and not wanting to lose the progress made.

Like it seems interesting most 80’s/90’s free speech comedian / shock jocks still seem to be fundamentally liberal even though the younger generation of these are being turned conservative by the cultural environment.

Agreed, good observation.

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