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State of the climate: 2024 will be first year above 1.5C of global warming

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Are there any climate believing republicans in the US? And are they powerful enough or enough in numbers to affect climate change action? (I doubt it and as such worry that this is a forgone conclusion)

It is a foregone conclusion. Countries should take steps to mitigate what happens to them. For instance the U.S. should prevent Saudi companies from exploiting water resources in the U.S. And we should build a wall to prevent mass migrations northward as Central America dries up.

I hope you don't have the notion that global warming means global drying. Warmer ocean temperatures increase rate of water evaporation, which in turn increases rainfall.

Some regions will probably become dryer (just as some regions will probably become colder), but I doubt you've have a rational basis for a belief that Central America in particular is likely to be one of the regions that will become dryer.

The Panama Canal is having problems now due to a prolonged drought. There have already been migrations from Guatemala and Honduras due to droughts in the highlands. Mexico City is facing a water problem partially due to drought.

From NASA: Increased evaporation will result in more frequent and intense storms, but will also contribute to drying over some land areas.

Don't know if Central America in particular will dry out in the long term. Was just using it as an example of the types of migrations that will come from global warming. Please try to understand the overall point and not pedantically nitpick.

https://rmets.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/joc.7310

.. but I doubt you've have a rational basis for a belief that Central America in particular is likely to be one of the regions that will become dryer.

Is your belief rationally based?

Water can be solved with desalination and investments in energy output improvement tech.

Mass migrations can be handled by destroying all the layers of laws that NIMByYs use.

The solution is more trade, more cooperation, not isolation.

Water can be solved with desalination and investments in energy output improvement tech.

New Mexico can’t build desalination plants. Probably a good idea to not allow water intensive crops to be grown there that are exported.

Mass migrations can be handled by destroying all the layers of laws that NIMByYs use.

It’s rational for a country to not have open borders and allow anyone to just come. It’s also rational to not allow more people to come in than what the citizens are comfortable with. It’s going to be much more Darwinian in the future.

India, for instance, isn’t going to be able account 200 million climate refugees from Bangladesh.

What if I told you that evidence has shown that immigration was deflationary and contributed to the low inflation that the US experienced where other nations had it far worse than we did?

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/did-immigration-bring-down-inf...

Immigration at it's current levels might be great but not necessarily if it greatly increased. What you have to demonstrate is that in a world full of climate change caused chaos allowing tens of millions of people into the country is it a bad idea. We don't live in that word yet so referencing the effect of current levels of immigration is not relevant.

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