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I wonder how revisionist Gruber's memory must be to have plastered over Tim and Donald's friendly relationship during Trump's first term. Does he forget the Mac Pro factory tour Cook invited Trump to, the dinners they reportedly arranged together and the phone calls they admit they had over the European Union? Does he think all of this changed, because Trump is the bad guy and Tim Cook is always his superhero?

If nothing good comes of this Trump election cycle at least it will make Gruber question the moral basis of his career. The man spent the past decade of his life curating an imperative defense of America's largest company and now he's getting high off his own supply of bullshit. The real wonder is how anyone took Gruber seriously for so long. We really wanted our presumptions to be masturbated that badly, huh? Tragic.

Maybe it was all marketing fluff all along and maybe I’m a fool, but I remember a time when companies like Apple and Google were young and when the companies were idealistic. “Think different,” “The computer for the rest of us,” “Don’t be evil,” and all that jazz. Of course, these companies grew up and became global juggernauts with tremendous power. These companies have deviated from their humble roots and are now the powerhouses of the day. I don’t think Jobs or early Page/Brin or even early Zuck would be so obsequious.

I guess as these companies grew up, we, collectively speaking, need to grow up, too, and start thinking of these companies not as young, scrappy darlings and more as today’s titans, and treat them accordingly.

As I get older, I feel less willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's very charming to imagine these businesses spending their formative years breaking bread with each other and acting innocent, but they had to move fast and break things to get where they are today. Jobs had a direct hand in Apple's offshoring that would turn out to be equal parts blessing and curse. Sergey Brin supposedly invented AdSense himself. Zuckerberg... well, the less that's said about him the better.

And getting down to it, I don't think it's hard to imagine all of it as marketing fluff either. Humanist marketing fluff, sure, but written with the intent of selling products for certain. Who nowadays would accept "Think Different" from a company that releases the same 3 products every year, or "Don't be evil" from the most detrimental company in America? The Grubers of the world always looked like self-absorbed fools, but they went from being Bloomberg's crown jewel to Twitter (sorry, X) pundits.

I just thought it was a neat collection of FAAMG kissing the ring, and it's quoting them instead of using embeds. Didn't know what to do with the title though, so I just left it as is. But for me it's about the quotes, not the commentary on that page.

It's not clear to me what is the problem you have with Gruber or this post. He's just a journalist/blogger who's covered Apple and related topics by, you know, publishing his own writing on his own website (for over 20 years). You seem angry that such a person exists, or that someone can be enthusiastic about some things having to do with Apple while criticizing others. I really don't understand the animosity towards him and his site that seems to be simmering away in this community.

I think it's just sad to see someone that was (or is still?) a fanatic about everything Apple become or show himself a political fanatic.

In what way is he being a "political fanatic" in this post? His writing has never been politically neutral - nor has he ever claimed it was - but this post calling out the lameness of a bunch of tech CEOs posting similar ass-covering congratulations to the winner of the presidential election - especially the ones who clearly would have preferred a different winner - could have been written by anyone.

he loves to hate on trump, better?

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