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> As usual, the problem with this is that it assumes a way to perfectly identify somebody on the internet, which in turns mean a way to perfectly identify, in real time, somebody carrying permanently a tracking device with GPS, microphone and camera.

It's Australia, who often rank very low for a western country on human rights.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/asia-and-the-pacific/sou...

Secret trials https://www.hrlc.org.au/news/2023/4/19/secret-trials-have-no...

Secret laws https://www.theguardian.com/law/2023/mar/28/more-than-800-se...

Secret ministries https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/aug/19/scott...

Secret backdoors https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/12/new_australia...

Introducing Digital ID system that may be enabler for this https://www.oaic.gov.au/digital-id

While trying to introduce laws to weaken encryption an ex Australia prime minister famously said:

> "The laws of mathematics are very commendable, but the only law that applies in Australia is the law of Australia" Malcolm Turnbull.

What's crazy the west look at places such as China as dystopian with the great firewall etc, it appears China was just ahead of the game.

Australia is probably the easiest place to introduce a system to block social media, a experimentation ground for five eyes. Easy to push things through, protesting isn't an Australian pass time, not that big of a country, not that small of a country.

Not that I agreed with the person for doing it, but people got arrested for protesting lockdowns on social media over Facebook. I remember seeing a video of a self-proclaimed pregnant woman being handcuffed. I cant imagine why nobody protests in Australia, assuming this is the normal government response.

Source? Or at least give us some related example.

Australia has been a petri dish for the testing of totalitarian-authoritarian policies and populist dogma since its inception as a nation.

Never forget that the Western worlds first, most successful racist genocide occurred in Australia, and the same racist reasoning that allowed it to maintain White Australia policies into the 80's are still being used to justify the slaughter of innocent human beings all over the world.

When the USA wants something dirty done, in yet another illegal war, Australia is ready with hat in hand, willful and subservient, to commit yet more crimes against humanity and get away with it.

Australia is where the apparatus designed, with intent, to massively violate the human rights of over a billion human beings currently operates, at insane scales, every second of the day. Australians are fine with it.

(Disclaimer: White Stolen Generation Australian.)

Isn't it Israel where they test the technology (on Palestinians)?

5-eyes and then 9-eyes and then 12-eyes say "whaaaa?"

I think the kinetic testing is done all over the middle east. The mind-control stuff is pretty successfully deployed down under, though.

There is no sane discussion to be had around the "stolen generation" (I don't believe it was white, they were black) due to the mass misinformation that exists, the situation is muddy and complex where the facts simply don't meet reality.

>mass misinformation

The White Stolen Generation is a real thing. If you don't know about it, you're not qualified to dismiss it:

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/politics/...

(EDIT: please look at the URL, which includes the anchor directly to the section on the "White Stolen Generation" - for some reason when following the URL through HN, the jump to the anchor for that section is not followed, giving the impression that there is no "White Stolen Generation" section on the given website, when .. indeed .. there is.)

Those who don't want to confront this painful aspect of Australia's terrible history tend to want to muddy the waters, but those of us who actually suffered under the forced human trafficking regime that was official Australian government policy see things a lot more clearly...

Really, the white one ? You are saying white children were stolen, just so we're clear on that. Sounds like you're not qualified to talk on it.

Given that they linked to an article about Aboriginal children being abducted I think it is safe to assume this was an unfortunate typo

>an unfortunate typo

No, it was not an unfortunate typo. You have merely not bothered to take anything more than a superficial glance at the details.

Please, before you rush to be right about something you know nothing about, try a simple google search, at least - especially for such a subject where some of us were victimized by our own governments.

The link given goes directly to the section on the White Stolen Generation:

https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/politics/...

(Look at the URL...)

The "white stolen generations"

Did you know that in Australia there is another stolen generation, one which shares the pain and consequences? It's called the "white stolen generation" to distinguish it from the Aboriginal stolen generation.

In the five decades up to 1982, the newborn babies of young, single women were forcibly removed from them for adoption, a practice sometimes called 'baby farming'. Mothers were drugged, tethered to beds, not allowed to see their babies, told they were dead. [54] Many of these adoptions occurred after the mothers were sent away by their families due to the stigma associated with being pregnant and unmarried.

More than 250,000 white mothers lost their babies to forcible removal at birth by these past illegal adoption practices. Groups such as Adoption Loss Adult Support and Apology Alliance offer help and support.

Between 2010 and 2012 apologies were offered by Western Australia, South Australia, ACT, New South Wales, Victoria and Tasmania. Prime Minister Julia Gillard offered a national apology to those affected by forced adoptions in 2013.

Source: A guide to Australia's Stolen Generations - Creative Spirits, retrieved from https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/politics/...

Then there is this:

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/white-mothers-of-sto...

.. and of course you could read what Wikipedia has to say about it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forced_adoption_in_Australia

In fact, an "apology" was given by the Australian government, but as we can see, it was not enough.

General public awareness of the subject, as you have demonstrated, is terrible. And, yet again, Australia gets away with it as a result.

Yep, that ones on me, I had too many tabs open and didnt investigate fully on what I was reading.

Apologies, when I open the link it takes me to the top of the page on mobile which says “A guide to Australia's Stolen Generations Read why Aboriginal children were stolen from their families, where they were taken and what happened to them.”

I don’t have a dog in this fight and know very little about this piece of history, so I am bowing out. I did think it was legitimately a typo

Your superficial dismissal of this situation is highly offensive. Please inform yourself.

Yes, white children were stolen and officially trafficked by their governments, as official policy. From around the Commonwealth, in fact.

And some of us are still suffering.

>Sounds like you're not qualified to talk on it.

What part of "(Disclaimer: White Stolen Generation Australian.)" didn't you understand?

I like how you post twice. Such passion.

Many people in Australia know people that were affected by such policies .. but wait, there's even another third "stolen generation" in Australia aside from the Aboriginal kids (whom I know a number of) and the single mother kids (of whom I know a number of) .. the post WWII UK orphan kids sent to Australia for their health a better life.

That didn't turn out well thanks to kiddy fiddling "Christian Brothers" at multiple institutes across Australia who worked their way through literal boatloads of children.

eg: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/02/child-migran...

Clontarf Boys Town, Castledare, Bindoon, and several other sites in this state alone were the subject of a massive nation wide Royal Commission into child abuse.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/bindoon...

Its like it never ends !

>(Disclaimer: White Stolen Generation Australian.)

For those who are reading this thread in disbelief at the magnitude of Australia's dark history, this is a compelling read:

https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/items/02ba5454-5...

> Never forgetten that the Western worlds first, most successful racist genocide occurred in Australia

oh dear, have we forgotten about The Holocaust so soon?

Or are we just going to let slide mis-information on true historical events that don't need lying to relay the injustice, and support justice?

Btw we are not going to accept that you mistyped, Again.

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