Still, I am not the targeted audience for their framework. I do not like their syntax.
These self called geeks and gurus are best avoided in projects. I guess the hacked by China joke is like a filter.
Real programmers do it for fun. And they not only do it in few words, they also do it with 'finger'.
I guess, they are just doing a cultural handshake they try to filter out the morons by sending irrelevant information on one hand (the official website), and another one on the other hand (the doc is concise and clear).
For me it is a new divide in programming community: the infatuated hipsters self called geeks vs the mocking nerds.
For me it is the sense of the zed shaw's rant on rails, and of the readme and sites of javelin.
PS : I belong to the mocking nerds.
There are more dimensions here than just two. The two groups you've described co-exist with many other kinds of programmers. For example, Linus Torvalds is not a mocking nerd or a hipster. I would imagine that many programmers do not identify with the two groups you've described. There are groups of 'serious' and talented programmers, lulzy talented programmers, lulzy hipster programmers, and every combination in between. Shades of gray, as they say.
Some have it, some don't.
Some see shades of gray, some sees a rainbow of colours and even the ones that are not in the visible spectrum, I'd say.
If a software has been done, buy it! It will be almost always less expensive than building it. If it has not been done yet, no book or knowledge can tell you how to do it.
And if an idea you can code is new, you'll hardly have the word for it. It is easier to brag about «well (re)known ideas» than doing new stuff.
Colours you can't see are ideas we have not yet the word to describe them to those who can't see them.
Really? I thought he notorious for abrasive replies telling people they're idiots for using C++, etc.
Choose your mockin nerd.
You can rephrase most of these sometimes 20 years old+ quotes for each technical news we have seen recently.
A lulz is just another caricature of a nerd. Mimicking a trait like a monkey is not capturing the essence of the thing.
Science is the belief in the ignorance of the expert -- Feynman
Hipsters? Nerds? Geeks? These pointless monikers don't say anything about someone's true programming aptitude. You're doing yourself and everyone else a disservice by acting like that these stereotypes exist.
That's also why it's a pretty jerk thing to call someone on the internet. Hipster-slingers: you have no frickin idea why people like the things they like. But try assuming it's because they actually like them. It makes the conversation a lot more fun.
I only visualize the people with their crappy and expensive earplugs and ipod telling how much they love music. And they seems to ignore how much their sound is distorded.
Hispters love the words and attitude and despise the knowledge. That's my definition.
I guess I just got confused as I would never use the term that way myself -- as you say, "you have no idea why people like the things they like".
As such, if I were to say "hipster", I'd be referring to the subculture - the skinny-jeans/chunky-glasses/retro-t-shirt/coffee-shop crowd. Being a trait I can actually consistently identify in a person, rather than a trait I can merely assert the presence of without evidence.