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Did Trump say that he will "deport all brown people"? Or that he will do a "full ethnic cleansing"?

If you're looking for a quote of him saying that word for word, no. But it is not an unreasonable interpretation of the things he has said he wants to do. Especially when he's used language saying immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country" and makes up lies about immigrants eating pets.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/inside-trumps-plan-mass-dep...

It sounds to me that this is crass exaggeration and one of the many reasons why there is such a big divide between supporters of both factions. The whole exaggerated narrative and associations to nazism is definitely off putting.

I understand you think people are exaggerating. You probably roll your eyes when people say Trump is a fascist, I imagine?

Can I ask - let's say before 2028 the democrat party gets tea partied and gets a genuine fascist candidate. What would that candidate say? What would their policies be? Can you do the same thought experiment for the Republican party? Or do you, unfairly, believe it's simply impossible for one, or the other, party to become genuinely fascistic? Perhaps you even believe fascism was permanently defeated when Mussolini was hanged? I would admire such an optimistic view!

Just in case you're genuinely curious why people say these things, it's not like we're all just making it up. Trump's rhetoric simply, to one who studies history, sounds very similar to Hitler's. It doesn't mean he's as bad as Hitler, it just means he talks like Hitler talked.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-a...

As for hitlerian policy, there is simply no way to deport the millions he has promised to deport that doesn't involve roundups, trains, and concentration camps. It's a physical impossibility to achieve otherwise. Do you disagree? Will he not follow through on his campaign promise to deport every undocumented immigrant?

>You probably roll your eyes when people say Trump is a fascist, I imagine?

Not really, I don’t even give it that energy anymore.

I just move on to the next lunatic overreacting and stomping their feet.

The majority of Americans are tired of “everyone I don’t like is a fascist”. You have four years to learn that I guess.

I see you're unwilling to engage with the topic, though I try to in good faith. This makes me sad and frustrated. The key thing about British and American political discourse seems to be a disengagement from political education and reality. The reactionaries are actually "moderates," the guy speaking eerily similar to passages of mein Kampf is not hitlerian, center-right are actually communists, etc.

Yes, that is the point. I am u willing to engage with the lunatics that call Trump a fascist. You are either stomping your feet like a child, or you do not understand what words mean.

Don’t be a clown and then come to me about “good faith”.

You've called me a lunatic, a child, and a clown.

Of the two of us which is more obviously unserious about our positions? Which is more able to speak clearly about them?

If you can't comprehend political analysis, why pretend to understand it? Just say you like the guy and if that makes you a fascist then you like fascism. It seems like you have a vague notion of what facism means and that it's bad - but the same people that you're calling a clown, a child, a lunatic, are the people that define words like "fascism" and imply it's bad. Why listen to us in one case and not the other?

You don't see any similarity between immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country" (from Trump) and "Look at the ravages from which our people are suffering daily as a result of being contaminated with Jewish blood" (from James Murphy's English translation of Mein Kampf?

I didn't say anything about Nazism in my comment.

Those are words Trump has used. He said the eating pets thing during the debate.

What, and Trump repeatedly uttering Nazi rhetoric isn't off putting?

It's not exaggerated. These are literally things he has said, word for word, over and over.

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