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>US sugar consumption declined from 2000-2020 to 1970s levels, while its T2D prevalence only increased

obesity did not decline

>And if sugar is so metabolically harmful, where are the RCTs showing this? All I've seen is that outside of a caloric surplus, it isn't especially metabolically harmful

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose#Potential_health_effe...

>Meanwhile tribes of hunter-gatherers in Africa get 15-80% of their daily calories from honey during certain seasons; why aren't they obese and diabetic?

if you are are physically active and don't overeat, you can eat whatever the fuck you want and never get obese. if you are not obese, you will (most likely) never develop T2D

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Physically very active. I used to gain 10 kg when my sport (American football) was not in season, although I did some training year-round.

I don’t have the time for that level of activity as an adult. In season, it was about 20 hours a week.

Just one cheeseburger is three miles of running. Not only is it very easy to shop and overeat, your body continually encourages it. The only way out is determination not to eat whatever you want.

Resting metabolism uses a -lot- of calories. You can have that hamburger, just don’t have two, no jogging necessary.

> just don’t have two

I find this is the difficult part. I find it much easier to not eat hyper-palatable foods at all than to eat "just a little".

Sure, I probably won't eat two hamburgers in a sitting, but eating one greatly reduces the calories I can eat during the other meals of the day if I don't want to slowly gain weight.

If you eat a normal burger with high quality meat and traditionally made roll and fresh vegetables on top the overeating thing isn’t as much of an issue. I have a hard time finishing a single one let alone eating more.

"Hyper-palatable foods" was a new expression to me, but I like it. Much more reasonable than "processed".

Having two buggers and jogging is much healthier than eating one and be sedentary

[Citation Needed]

Jogging almost certainly won't burn the calories from the second burger.

The jogging might not be necessary for the calorie burn, but humans evolved based on movement / activity. Our great great great great...n ancestors didn't have desk jobs starring at screens.

It's not so simple... I eat whatever I want and struggle to get my weight over 80 kg, which would be a healthy weight for my height.

Nobody is implying it’s so simple that you can “eat whatever you want” and be at a healthy weight. This is true if you’re underweight as well. If you’re trying to gain weight, you need to eat more than you want.

I run 3 miles a few times a week and it’s something near 500-600 calories. I’d say maybe 4 miles depending on the type of burger we’re discussing

McDonalds cheeseburger is 300cals in USA (and 290 in Canada):

https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/cheeseburger.html

https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/product/cheeseburger.html

Yes, and even the most basic meal comes with two of those. I imagine more people are thinking of a quarter pounder.

I find it way easier not to eat whenever I want. I'm doing 24h break from eating every 24h. Basically one day I'm eating just till 4PM and the next one only after 4PM. I've lost about 6kg (from being slightly overweight) in two months eating whatever I want. Just not whenever I want.

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