This seems like another media opportunity about a nothing burger event for an index that has lost relevance, when other indices like the S&P 500 and QQQ have already incorporated NVIDIA a while ago. They’re just playing catch up.
This seems like another media opportunity about a nothing burger event for an index that has lost relevance, when other indices like the S&P 500 and QQQ have already incorporated NVIDIA a while ago. They’re just playing catch up.
The DJIA is a price-weighted index and doesn’t track dividends, yet is somehow supposed to reflect investor sentiment.
The media wants to not go bankrupt. It’s the customers that decide whether and how that’s possible.
I’d say that depends. Many media organizations operate without profits — or even incurring losses — in order to serve the public good, promote an ideology, engage in activism, spread misinformation, etc.
Yes, several state-run and private media organizations operate without profits or at a loss in order to spread misinformation.
> which major media operations are operating at a loss how for the public good (discounting state run) and how?
Sorry, I was unable to properly understand your question.
In any case, I never said the organizations that are not primarily concerned with chasing profits are “major” ones. I believe that applies best to lesser-well-known entities, like those who live on social media or the blogosphere. Though there are some instances of major state-run companies, even on TV and on the radio, that operate in a similar fashion.
Also, I am surely not equating the spread of misinformation with serving the public good — these are just distinct objectives that may be sought by media organizations, rather than avoiding bankruptcy.
"Chicago Sun-Times becomes nonprofit newspaper with $61 million in backing as WBEZ merger closes"
<https://www.chicagotribune.com/2022/01/31/chicago-sun-times-...>
Of newspapers operating at a loss or as philanthropies, there are the Baltimore Banner,[2] The Guardian,[3] and ProPublica,[4] which all operate as non-profits, relying on a mix of advertising, subscriptions, and philanthropy. The privately-held, for-profit Washington Post is a for-profit paper that's operated at a loss for years, and this before losing ~10% of its subscribers due to recent editorial decisions.[4][5]
There are numerous propaganda institutions (usually labeled as "think tanks") promulgating various ideologies or interests, with the Atlas Network being amongst the largest and most influential:
<https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Atlas_Network>
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Notes:
1. See for example the WSJ's coverage: "Chicago Public Media to Acquire Chicago Sun-Times, Creating a Nonprofit Local-News Powerhouse" <https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/chicago-public-media-to-acq...> archive/paywall: <https://archive.is/LP3Q6>.
2. A non-profit newspaper established in 2022: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Baltimore_Banner>.
3. A slightly dated take on 2016 turmoil at The Guardian: "Everything you need to know about the Guardian’s giant bust-up" (2026-5-18) <https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/fueding-and...> and Wikipedia's entry on the Scott Trust Limited which underwrites the paper: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited>.
4. ProPublica was established as a 501(c)(3) in 2007, with funding from the Sandler, Knight, MacArthur, and Ford foundations, along with the Pew Charitable Trusts, Carnegie Corporation, and Atlantic Philanthropies: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProPublica>.
5. "The Washington Post publisher disclosed the paper lost $77 million last year. Here’s his plan to turn it around" (2024-5-23) <https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/23/media/washington-post-will-le...>
6. "Washington Post cancellations hit 250,000 – 10% of subscribers" (2024-10-29) <https://www.theguardian.com/media/2024/oct/29/washington-pos...>
For most of the listed orgs, it's a different business organisation (not-for-profit rather than shareholder-based), the organisations aren't intended to run an operating profit, and the content is available to far more than just those who pay directly for access.
Mind that in the case of ad-supported print media, the principle customers (the advertisers) weren't identical with the set of readers. But access was largely limited to those who subscribed directly, bought a newsstand copy, or could access a copy obtained by either method. In either case the operation was generally intended to run a profit.
There have also been free papers, either supported entirely by advertising (frequently "entertainment weeklies"), or published as propaganda organs for a given organisation, frequently religious or political.
Free papers might be either for-profit (ad-supported) or not-for-profit (propaganda). Ultimately there's a rather blurry line between advertising and propaganda: both are messaging modes in which the publisher is more interested in distribution than the reader.
It’s a good example of the media being split into two populations. The free media, which is filler for ads. And media one pays for. The financial press isn’t really headlining this story; it’s on CNBC.
AFAIK its only real utility is if you want to make very long term comparisons over the years against old values of itself, where its long baseline may be valuable compared to other metrics that don't stretch as far.
Everything else is just flim-flam for getting views/clicks or comforting very old viewers with something that is a familiar staple.
This argument has been around since time immemorial. The right way to think of it is more like a country club or a who's who, rather than a survey or a directory.
As for the news at hand, it's really more about Intel than Nvidia. Sic transit gloria mundi.
It has engineers. It might yet surprise. Nvidia hasn't proven it can turn a ridiculous amount of capital into a matrix-multiplication moat.
The one I know of off the top of my head is DIA.
In the end how funds are marketed and presented is important part to understand. Also it is better for them to sell actively managed fund with bigger number on it than index with negative one.
It’s a crappy price weighted benchmark with 30 stocks invented over 100 years ago, that’s why Vanguard doesn’t offer a fund.
The largest DJIA ETF is small potatoes, SPY’s average daily volume is higher than DIA’s total assets under management.
VOO tracks the S&P 500 and VTI tracks the US total market, both of these are much better, more diversified options for equity investing.