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Musk appears to have worked in the US without authorization

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A FARA violation for having Vlad as a chat buddy would both spice up the visa fraud, and yank his security clearance. Without the security clearance, the naturalization has little value.

Well, I mean, having the right to live in the US probably has some value to a hands-on CEO of US companies even without the defense contracts; and if his naturalization was yanked for willful material misrepresentation, since that's not just disqualifying for citizenship but also deportable and subject to lifetime inadmissibility, he’d potentially face a rather radical change of circumsntance.

You are correct. But only about 10 denaturalization happen each year. Ironically Trump promised to vastly increase denaturalizations. Don't know if it happened.

> having the right to live in the US probably has some value to a hands-on CEO of US companies

Musk is not very hands on these days. He's too busy being "dark gothic MAGA", whatever that's supposed to mean.

When he does show up to work Tesla employees describe him as a "pigeon CEO" because he "comes in, shits all over us, and then leaves":

https://electrek.co/2024/04/22/elon-musk-pigeon-ceo-former-t...

speaking with someone is a far cry from being a foreign agent.

The Act requires periodic disclosure of all activities and finances by people and organizations that are under control of a foreign government. It is completely legal to speak with foreign powers, like their ideas, and be influenced by them.

You become a foreign agent if you take orders from them or are paid by them. Nobody has made a compelling case that Musk takes orders from Putin.

Actually, the DoJ has a FAQ:

What is an “agent of a foreign principal”?

An “agent of a foreign principal” is any person who acts as an agent, representative, employee, or servant, or otherwise acts at the order, request, or under the direction or control of a “foreign principal” and does any of the following:

Engages within the United States in political activities, such as intending to influence any U.S. Government official or the American public regarding U.S. domestic or foreign policy or the political or public interests of a foreign government or foreign political party.

Acts within the United States as a public relations counsel, publicity agent, information service employee, or political consultant.

Solicits, collects, disburses, or dispenses contributions, loans, money, or other things of value within the United States.

Represents within the United States the interests of a foreign principal before U.S. Government officials or agencies.

See 22 U.S.C. § 611(c); 28 C.F.R. § 5.100.

That matches my understanding. It is clearly not applicable.

Did you highlight part because you think musk is a information service employee of Putin?

Owning Xitter, having a clearance, chatting with Vlad, if not immediately disclosed, and taking Vlad's side against Ukraine is pretty sketchy.

Yeah, I just don't see any evidence of foreign control.

Yeah probably just a request. Oh snap.

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