Nor have I had any desire to upgrade.
I never thought I'd see a processor that was 50% faster single-core and 80% faster multi-core and just shrug. My M1 Pro still feels so magically fast.
I'm really happy that Apple keeps pushing things and I'll be grateful when I do decide to upgrade, but my M1 Pro has just been such a magical machine. Every other laptop I've ever bought (Mac or PC) has run its fan regularly. I did finally get fan noise on my M1 Pro when pegging the CPU at 800% for a while (doing batch conversion of tons of PDFs to images) - and to be fair, it was sitting on a blanket which was insulating it. Still, it didn't get hot, unlike every other laptop I've ever owned did even under normal usage.
It's just been such a joyful machine.
I do look forward to an OLED MacBook Pro and I know how great a future Apple Silicon processor will be.
That was truely the dark age of Apple.
Unbridled control over all design in one hyper opinionated guy was an error well resolved.
What got me, however, was that was the time where their trade-in program was really kicking in. I think I got $800 for my touchbar mac which made the jump to an M1 Pro 14 a little less painful. Now you don't seem to so much pay for hardware as lease the Apple experience, so long as the hardware is still good.
He told me his fans were going crazy and his entire desk was hot after that. Apple silicon is just a game changer.
I was so happy when I finally got an M1 MBP for work because as you say Docker is so much faster on it. I feel like I don't wait for anything anymore. Can't even imagine these new chips.
I’m going to be very happy when it’s time to replace my Intel MBP at work.
It’s rarely loud, but boy it likes to be warm/toasty at the stupidest things.
- use native toolchain to produce artifacts for a different architecture
- use emulation to run different arch toolchain to produce different arch artifacts
First one is fast, second one is slow. In docker only second variant is possible.
Why would you need to emulate x86 to produce x86-shaped bytes?
For exmaple, that is generally the way you cross compile Flatpaks in cli or ide. In, for example, GNOME Builder you can just select the device you want to build for, like your smartphone, and it uses QEMU to emulate the entire SDK in the target architecture, you can also seemlessly run the Flatpak on your host through QEMU user mode emulation too.
So when you compiled to WASM you're going with route #1. WASM was designed with this this in mind.
Then there are some gcc quirks:
- for gcc compilation target is defined when gcc is compiled, so only way to cross-compile with gcc that I know of is emulation of target arch and runing gcc for target arch
However, we're talking about docker containers here, emulation would be the default way and path of least resistance.
Again, I will reiterate: every cross-compilation strategy falls into one of these two buckets. In some cases what I've describe in #1 is possible (WASM, java bytecode or really (almost) anything that targets a VM), in some cases it isn't and then you gotta go with #2 (docker, gcc)
- clang and LLVM don't have that GCC quirk (LLVM support less platforms, so give gcc some credit)
- it was in apple's financial interest make sure their things are easy to cross-compile.
- linker job is extremely straighforward in case of iOS
- everything is provided by either apple or application developerBut this M1 Max MBP is just insane. I'm nearly 50 and it's the best machine I've ever owned; nothing is even close.
The battery life improvements are great. Apple really did a terrible job with the thermal management on their last few Intel laptops. My M1 Max can consume (and therefore dissipate) more power than my Intel MBP did, but the M1 thermal solution handles it quietly.
The thermal solution on those Intel MacBooks was really bad.
Apple seems to have taken that to heart when they designed the cases for the Apple Silicon MBPs and those have excellent cooling (and more ports).
You have to really, REALLY put in effort to make it operate at rated power. My M2 MBA idles at around 5 watts, my work 2019 16-inch i9 is around 30 watts in idle.
Recently my friend bought a laptop with Intel Ultra 9 185h. It roared fans even when opening Word. That was extraordinary and if it was me making the purchase I would have sent it back straight away.
My friend did fiddle a lot with settings, had to update BIOS and eventually the fan situation was somewhat contained, but man I am never going to buy Intel / AMD laptop. You don't know how annoying fan noise is until you get a laptop that is fast and doesn't make any noise. With Intel is like having a drill pointed to your head that can goes off at any moment and let's not mention phantom fan noise, where it gets imprinted in your head that your brain makes you think the fans are on, but they are not.
Apple has achieved something extraordinary. I don't like MacOS, but I am getting used to it. I hope one day this Asahi effort will let us replace it.
Blows my mind how it doesn't even have a fan and is still rarely even anything above body temperature. My 2015 MBP was still going strong for work when I bailed on it late last year but the transition purely on the heat/sound emitted has been colossal.
The thing then was it was just Apple catching up with windows computers which had had a considerable performance lead for a while. It didn't really seem magical to just see it finally matched. (Yes Intel Mac's got better then Windows computers but that was later. At launch it was just matching)
It's very different this time because you can't match the performance/battery trade off in anyway.
Apple adopted Intel chips only after Intel replaced the Pentium 4 with the much cooler running Core Solo and Core Duo chips, which were more suitable for laptops.
Apple dropped Intel for ARM for the exact same reason. The Intel chips ran too hot for laptops, and the promised improvements never shipped.
The Apple ecosystem was most popular in the publishing industry at the time, and most publishing software used floating point math on tower computers with huge cooling systems.
Since IBM originally designed the POWER architecture for scientific computing, it makes sense that floating point performance would be what they optimized for.
But they spend voriously. And so the desktop PC market is theirs and theirs alone.
That's why the default advice if you're looking for 'value' is to buy a gaming console to complement your laptop. Both will excel at their separate roles for a decade without requiring much in the way of upgrades.
The desktop pc market these days is a luxury 'prosumer' market that doesn't really care about value as much. It feels like we're going back to the late 90's, early 2000's.
That's the thing with macs, all the strategy games tend to release there because the market for mac users and strategy gamers is a circle.
Yeah sure, if you start buying unnecessary luxury cases, fans and custom water loops it can jump up high, but that's more for clueless rich kids or enthusiasts. So I wouldn't place pc gaming as an expensive hobby today, especially considering Nvidia money grubbing practices that won't stay forever.
The frame rate wasn’t even close to my desktop (which is less powerful than yours). I switched back to the PC.
Last time I looked, the energy efficiency of nVidia GPUs in the lower TDP regions wasn’t actually that different from Apple’s hardware. The main difference is that Apple hardware isn’t scaled up to the level of big nVidia GPUs.
As long as I don't open Chrome, Safari, Apple Notes, or really any other app...
Compiling gcc multi thread a few times would be enough.
My 2015 could get hotter than my 2010. I think my work 2019 gets hotter still.
I think the Intels were hotter than my G4, but it’s been too long and the performance jump was worth it.
Got an M1 Air, it blows them all out of the water (even 2019, others aren’t a surprise). And it does it fanless, as opposed to emulating a jet engine.
And if you really push it, it gets pleasantly warm. Not possibly-burn-inducingly hot.
Was the only one I needed thankfully. Missed the whole port reduction and power bar mess.
I love my M1 Air. It is the first general purpose computing hardware that felt like a real advance. I measured that two ways:
How much closer to my mobile is it?
How much faster is it?
The Air feels like a Mobile Computer if that makes any sense. One USB port expander to serve as a dock of sorts later and it makes for a great desktop experience.
When using it on the go, it has that light, powerful feel much like running my phone does.
Great machine. It is easily my favorite computer Apple has ever made, 8 bit greatness and an older age aside.
Mine is sticky. As in when others get hold of it, next thing I hear is usually, "oooh" and then it takes some time for it to come back!
I got mine for a song. Sweet deal, but it is the 8GB 256GB configuration. Not too big of a deal, but more internal storage would be nice. Maybe I will send it out somewhere to get a boost.
Would have already, but I worry a little about those services.
Only solution was to increase fan speed profile to max rpm.
It’s way too easy to heat up.
That's pretty much all Intel laptops I've owned since 2007.
Yes I agree. I sometimes compile LLVM just to check whether it all still works. (And of course to have the latest LLVM from main ready in case I need it. Obviously.)