But in this case yeah, there seems to be a mix-up.
Separately, it's true that peak power is often a very important criterion for energy storage systems.
Except that isn't what the article says:
"In South Africa, for example, the total amount of energy produced from solar systems in 2019 was thought to be about 500 megawatts"
But hey, you reached your goal, killing the velocity of my comment way up there.
You planted the seed of "doubt".
I think it is pretty common for reasoning to require a fairly long explanation to become clear. Hopefully I've achieved that for most readers, even if you are still struggling. But if you object to this thread being "extremely verbose", why are you copying and pasting the same comment into it here and in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41998632?
> In South Africa, for example, the total amount of energy produced from solar systems in 2019 was thought to be about 500 megawatts, Nana said
This is a very explicit phrasing “the total amount of energy produced” and the units don’t work out. You can figure out what they meant by doing additional research, but that doesn’t make it a non-error.
There's nothing incorrect about any of these; it's mostly just a question of which units are the most convenient or unambiguous in a given context. And, I guess, which units your audience is accustomed to seeing; the SI unit for liters of gasoline per 100 kilometers would be square meters, but if you say your new car's gas mileage is 7.8 × 10⁻⁸ m², a lot of people will think you're using the wrong units, and they will surely have a hard time interpreting it.
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† Well, except that in this case the "500" is almost certainly made up; I don't think zelos was looking up South African rope production statistics!
But hey, you reached your goal, killing the velocity of my comment way up there.
You planted the seed of "doubt". Congrats.
Because of behavior like this: HN is not a great place for discussing anything to do with energy. Fanaticism generally rules. The loudest person wins. This is sad.
Probably someone out there will be convinced by "the loudest person", but hopefully most people will instead be convinced by sound reasoning and evidence. That's my goal: understanding what is really true, rather than believing what you copy-paste the most times.
You think it's clear tell that she knew what she was talking about when she wrote "the total amount of energy produced from solar systems in 2019 was thought to be about 500 megawatts".
Similarly you think it's a clear tell that I don't know what I'm talking about when I say that this is an incorrect statement, and that this is a clear tell.
So there's nothing actually wrong with the reporter's statement, even though it would be more precise to say that the average power generated was thought to be around 500 megawatts.
The arithmetic number wasn't made up out of thin air. The unit (and arithmetic number) were wrong in the given context (energy).
I claim that the latter is a common tell of a lack of understanding.
You claim that I don't know what I'm talking about since the number wasn't made up.
They said “500MW”
Is that peak output? Nameplate capacity? 500MWh?
Who knows.
It's true that someone who didn't understand the area might say "500 megawatts" when they meant "500 megawatt-hours", but the reporter in this case didn't make that error, and anyway 500 megawatt-hours in a year would be 57 kilowatts, which is an implausibly small amount of solar power to be produced by an entire medium-income country. That's more like a single large commercial building.
This is like the seventeenth century situation where cloth was sold by the "ell", but each kind of cloth was measured by a different ell. The Flemish ell was a different length from the English ell or the Scottish ell. This nonsense survives today in the custom current in the less advanced countries of weighing gold and silver in "troy ounces" and other commodities such as pepper in a different "ounce" that is about 10% smaller.
But the situation with energy is much worse, because transmuting electrical energy into gasoline, or vice versa, is enormously less inefficient than transmuting pepper into gold. Different forms of energy are far more often equivalent than different forms of mass.
The insight underlying the SI system of units is that calculations become much easier if you use a consistent set of units derived in a simple way from a minimal set of base units such as the kilogram and meter. How much kinetic energy is going to kill a 100-kg man falling from a building at 10 meters per second? Trivially, 50 kilojoules. How much energy does a 10-watt lightbulb consume in 5000 seconds? 50 kilojoules. If you are paying US$0.02 per megajoule for gasoline, US$0.01 per megajoule for natural gas, and US$0.04 per megajoule for electrical energy, what's the cheapest way to heat your house? Gas, unless your electric heat pump has a coefficient of performance over 4.
By contrast, if the different prices are expressed in different units, it adds difficulty to every kind of reasoning, to the point that there seems to be a popular misconception that megawatts are not even the right unit for measuring the solar energy production of a country.
Kilowatt hours are an especially silly unit. A watt is by definition a joule per second, so measuring energy in kilowatt hours is similar to measuring distance in mph-minutes. An mph-minute works out to be exactly 88 feet, and a kilowatt hour is exactly 3.6 megajoules. Just use megajoules! Stop making everything more difficult.
"500 meters per second" is not just (total production per year) / (seconds in a year) but also (total production in a day) / (seconds in a day) and (total production in a month) / (seconds in a month).
Meters per second, like watts, has the advantage of being an SI unit and therefore facilitating calculations with other SI units without requiring a bunch of numerical conversion factors.