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IMO, the real value of ROS is the data logging (bag/mcap files), visualization (FoxGlove) are the main value of ROS. Even then, I'm not sure it's worth the overhead and brittleness of building and running it. There is just so much complexity deploying and developing for it.

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Yep. ROS is great if you are an academic or a garage startup who needs to get anything at all up and running ASAP because it is extremely flexible and has a huge volume of community modules.

But, when it comes time to deploy serious business (very often Safety Critical) robots in the field, you don’t want flexibility. You want certainty. You don’t even want everyone’s contributions. You want specialized, carefully vetted code.

Thus the effort to make it easy to transition off of ROS to something simpler and more reliable.

This, so much.

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