I'll stop saying feedstock -- I thought I saw that in the astralcodexten article but I am mistaken.

When I say "the real thing" I mean that they are selling semaglutide, which they are obtaining somehow. The reddit post was the closest thing I've seen to an answer to the question "where are they getting it".

So if they are not getting it from producers under license from NN, where are they getting it? Why isn't the legality of that path under active legal attack? There must be some fig leaf at least that they can use to say how they got the substance when the patent is still in force, otherwise judges would immediately shut them down with an injunction.