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> The longest drive from within Arkansas to an out of state abortion clinic is about five hours.

Arkansas isn't so bad because I can drive 300 miles to a different state if I need medical care. Ok.

> There is no place to live without compromises.

Sure but calling an abortion ban a compromise is like calling a nuclear warhead a nonlethal weapon.

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I am much more pro choice than you are if you are anywhere near the Overton Window. Every single state has laws that shock my conscience as much as the Arkansas abortion ban shocks yours. If you don't have to make such compromises I envy you.

> Arkansas isn't so bad because I can drive 300 miles to a different state if I need medical care

Would just add that Republican lawmakers are trying to ban you doing this:

https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/in-print/volum...

For example, Idaho became the first state to outlaw “abortion trafficking,” which it defined as “recruiting, harboring or transporting” a pregnant minor to get an abortion or abortion medication without parental permission. Which is obviously a problem if your parent raped you.

You're being downvoted but this is correct. The entire concept of "state's rights" was always a facade when it comes to abortions. The end-goal is restricting choice as much as possible, and in every way you can. Virtually no republican's support people travelling to blue states for abortions due to this. The issue of abortion has been rife with dishonesty for as long as it's existed.

Do you fail to see the irony in comparing abortion to a weapon and not meaning the actual killing of the fetus? (Abortions to save the life of the mother are a very small percentage of abortions)

do you really think people are falling for this? especially on this forum?

You can get medical care there. You just can't end the life of a baby, unless the mother's life is in danger.

Words mean things, and the four-week fetus of a raped eleven-year-old is not a “baby”. Medical care to terminate that pregnancy and that fetus is literally medical care — and is illegal in Arkansas.

I haven't done a deep-dive on this subject, but it appears adolescents under 15 are 0.2% of US abortions according to the CDC.[1] So raped children needing medical interventions is some sub-fraction of 0.2%, which is less than 1,200 abortion across the entire country. It seems like such an extreme edge case that it is highly irrational to tar the adults of the entire state of Alabama as "garbage people" over these highly irregular scenarios.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/ss/ss7209a1.htm

And yet the elected leaders of Arkansas purposely rejected a bill that would have allowed these children -- excuse me, these edge cases -- to be allowed abortions if they were raped. They voted the bill down eighteen months ago.

This is who they are. https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/local-regional-news/2023-03-...

It's always fun to see how elected 'leaders' of this ilk (privately) change their tune when their mistress needs an abortion.

Or their daughter. Or when it's them.

There's a reason this twenty-four-year-old article is a classic: https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-...

I don't think it's genuine to make the argument that restricting rights is A-OK if the people who would be negatively affected are a small enough group. I'm assuming you couldn't articulate what the "cutoff" would be even if you wanted to, and if you could I doubt you could defend it.

I mean, why stop at 0.2 percent? Why not hurt even more people? Is 0.2 percent a magic number?

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