> I have little interest in the ycombinator legacy of hustle culture, growth hacking, get-millions-for-glorified-todo-app, etc. As far as I can tell it is effectively the underlying reason for why crypto and AI get hyped up to the point where we can't have reasonable discussions about them in forums.

Ohh, well... I'm guilty of drinking that kool-aid, unfortunately and was a boot-strapping fintech founder with the battle scars to show--those scars appear in this discussion thus far by the way.

But I get it, I'm trying to be amicable about this as much as I can, especially fbecause I know no one can deny us anymore in the BTC side at this point, and in the AI side... well, money-hype boom and AI-doomer pr0n cycles aside we are actually building amazing amounts of compute that hopefully can yield amazing results, something like Starship recovery system levels of advancement in many other Industries/Sectors one day, probably very far off in the future but that's the start, right?

Every forest starts with a sappling kind of a thing, and these two technologies emerged from a time when I was in my formidable development period so I saw them as something more than just the marketing side--AI is marketing, ML is really just stats with code to back it up after all. Bitcoin is just a FOSS network using token based cryptographic key encryption.

Stop using throwaways if you want real conversations, it might help you have those conversations you're looking for. :)