Machine conquest: Jules Verne's technocratic worldmaking
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https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340548
(annoyingly, my local libraries only had a few, and I still resent that when I was interested in French in high school that there weren't any original texts available to me)
For a discussion of the difficulties of reading this in translation see: https://www.usni.org/press/books/20000-leagues-under-sea --- it would be great if all of these novels could be so treated/updated.
>> Here, Verne was a narrator of global integration. His heroes were compelled by a quest to resist politics and oppose it: their triumphs relied on private sponsors, gentlemen’s clubs, scientific associations, millionaires – not governments. They ventured afar in spite of government, not because of it. Global order likewise rarely ever featured states, empires, or political actors. Private actors were the chief benefactors, beneficiaries, and interlocutors.
But I found this article useful for the perspectives on 'worldmaking'. This helps to understand the elements in game dev (immersion) and speculative fiction (narrative transport) that make (or not) a successful game or book. Something that I find fascinating
Of course here in the real world space exploration is too costly and complex a game for any organizations other than governments to play, and Verne and Heinlein were optimists with stars in their eyes. Or that's what it seemed like in the seventies when it was pretty much true.
The late 19th and early 20th century is exactly when the dramatic (around 4x) drop in child mortality took place. It wasn't of course only vaccines but also a general increase in healthcare and living standards. Without that drop I highly doubt that suffrage movement would gain any traction.
Btw., the protests still were the thing that got the change at the time, not the technology!
Seems to me any causal link is weak at best. Claiming that humans have no agency when it comes to society is rather a very strong claim that needs a lot of evidence. Usually people make the change, not technology (it wasn't machines protesting and overthrowing governments in Eastern Europe in the late 1980s, for example).
Curious example indeed. It wasn't machines that killed communism but its economic inferiority. Same thing that killed slavery and serfdom and feudalism and sit-at-home-women and other outdated social systems before that.
People are the same as they were 2000 years ago. The economic optimum is not, largely thanks to technology.
This never was my claim. Of course people action created the change.
Your question was different though:
> What technological breakthrough made, for example, women's suffrage possible?
The answer to that is "reduction in child mortality". It didn't "create the change" but rather "made it possible" in a quite literal sense. Same with the fall of communism.
Edit: yes, sorry, not your claim but the claim under discussion
Reads to me like social protest makes nothing possible,
You so far advanced a hypothesis on suffrage, but not more.
One of the triggering events of 1989 was a Japanese man walking to a university in Prague, putting a box of new modems in a student lounge and walking away.
Where does this either-or (private/government) come from?
I look at Gregor Mendel as an example for how many different parties worked as one. (Biology) professor Eric Lander of MIT mentioned in one biology/genetics intro course lecture video (on edX) that Mendel was not some lone figure, but that he got the task to do his research from his boss, who as representative of the church was in turn part of a local group consisting of important figures from local business and government. They talked about economics and decided that they needed better sheep - for better wool. Back then clothing was the big important business, the technical revolution and also new science was very important for it.
So I don't think there was a situation as described in that quote. I think they all worked along and with one another in those days.
The entire expansion of empires and colonies was not driven by some government officials who were bored, commerce, industry and politics were aligned.
The point was that Verne's fictitious heroes were acting independently of government, real or fictional. For example using fictitious, privately funded super-technology (rockets, aircraft, submarines, etc), or emerging from their exclusive gentlemen's clubs to which they returned when the adventure was over.
> His heroes were compelled by a quest to resist politics and oppose it...
> ...They ventured afar in spite of government, not because of it.
:)
Granted, reading the full piece shows a more complex picture, but I'm not sure it supports its own assertion that there is meant to be this "vs" towards nations and governments.
The text later contradicts itself too:
> In part, this betrayed how much Verne and his readers took a world of empire for granted: after all, circumnavigation with the ease described in Around the World in Eighty Days was only possible because of empire. Verne depicted a journey that simultaneously relied on a velocity and connectivity only possible because of globe-spanning imperial transport and communication networks, and a journey where – in stark contrast with most actual circumnavigatory voyages – the travellers return home alive and well.
So the text admits the entire private enterprise is only made possible by the global reach and security provided by empire in the first place. That clearly contradicts the earlier statement of "They ventured afar in spite of government, not because of it." The world the stories play in are based no the existence of that political structure and require it.
So he was writing a story of 19th century trust fund kids and VC funded tech bros..
Should an analysis of Verne's work refrain from pointing this out? Because it would be too "woke"?
Verne lived during the peak of the French colonial Empire. Whites were a minority in the total population of the Empire, racism was pretty much a state institution used to justify an ad hoc hierarchy of the peoples living in the colonies.
Seeing how Verne's archetype of the adventurer was shaped by colonial imagery is relevant to understanding his work. I don't know what more to tell you.
Verne was far more sympathetic towards non-European people that the vast majority of the Europeans of his time and many non-Europeans had very positive roles in his writings, even if their roles were less important than of the main European heroes. There were even a few strong female characters in some of his novels, even if most had male protagonists.
Therefore I think that it is stupid to insist on this. Only in the context of describing racism of the entire society of the 19th century it makes sense to give examples from Verne, among many others, to illustrate the way of thinking of that time.
Discussing this only in Verne can give the impression that he was worse than others, when in fact he was much better from this point of view.
He certainly was not an "apostle of colonization" and even the article recognizes that many of his works are very critical of colonization.
The main thing that can be reproached to Verne is that he tended to be much more indulgent about French colonization than about British colonization, under the mistaken assumption that in the French colonies abuses happen much less frequently than in the British colonies (though the British appear to have indeed been the worst, judging after the very small percentages of surviving natives in the British colonies in comparison with the colonies of all other countries).
As a child I have read a very large number of the novels of Jules Verne. While there were a few passages where he expressed a naive optimism about the possible benefits of bringing "civilization" to some remote parts of the Earth, those have made very little impression on me. What I have retained because I was impressed by them have been exactly the parts where the European colonization was criticized and where various natives had very positive images.
So any article author that describes Jules Verne as an "apostle of colonization" cannot have done due diligence in really reading his works.
The 'apostle of colonization' quoted by the article is something someone said about Verne in 1929. As a compliment.
Having non-European heroes be subordinate to European heroes was a common trope in colonial times. Look at Jean-Baptiste Marchand's expedition though Africa, and the statue he got as a result.
Seems to me like taking a sledgehammer to tore down doors which are already wide open but maybe I’m missing something. At this point, the mandatory postcolonial blurb in any literature article feels so expected that it has become slightly trite at least to me.
Jules Verne's books often features adventurers inspired by the heroes created by colonial propaganda, like Lyautey, Marchand, Brazza... Understanding the context of the time Verne lived in is necessary to get where his stories come from. Not mentioning it would lead to a pretty subpar analysis, in my opinion.
Certainly but that’s kind of implied by merely talking about Verne. Anyway, the article leans more heavily towards the overall Verne outlook towards colonialism than his simple choice of character thankfully.
I don’t think the analysis is particularly compelling or interesting - it’s the usual continental philosophy inspired rehash you expect for any modern literature paper, a discipline which has apparently become entirely incapable of producing any novel idea - but well I guess it’s nice it exists even if reading it feels like looking at a paint by number piece of art.