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Check out 'refurbished' ThinkPads when trying to get a deal on laptops. Many are off lease business machines that were lightly used, best value for the money imo.

What you described sounds fine also.

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Highly recommend this: you can hit 50% to 70% discount from original price, plus contribute to reducing e-waste.

I've been using a third-hand T480 for many (5? 7? Can't even remember anymore) years now, and it's probably the best Linux experience anyone can hope for. Performance vs. efficiency is crazy - easily hitting 20 hours, screen-on battery life after all this time and many full discharges.

That battery performance really surprising me. My T14 running debian averages ~5-6 hours of coding + browsing. Did you do anything fancy to get those sorts of results.

the t480 has two batteries! one internal and one removable. The laptop using the `tlp` package and a WM like i3wm - which I prefer for functional reasons - discharges at around 5 watts when idle, and running heavy stuff brings it up to 17W max.

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